Florida Builds ‘Alligator Alcatraz’ Detention Center for Migrants in Everglades

Look who is acting as an arbiter of good now!

 

Its true, the left has long lacked the straight-forward will to power of right-wingers who want to kick the browns out to make the county more white and give more money to the rich, its a real problem. Perhaps we will finally get our shit together again.

 

Congrats. It took longer than expected for the ultimate of accusation of racism to be directly launched. Good ole "you're racist" is such a warm blanket.

 

Nah, you already did that when your presented your great replacement theory argument. Its easy to read between the lines. Its not even about 'following the law,' because, its completely lawless the things the government are doing.

 

During his visit to Alligator Alley, a reporter asked Trump a question--twice, when Trump asked for a clarification--what the timeframe would be for the detainees to remain in custody--days, weeks, months? Trump replied that he would be in Florida quite often, and how much he loves the state, and its government, and all his friends there.

I don't think he was evading the original question. I think that, at that moment, he didn't comprehend it.

 

So much for them being new immigrants:



75-year-old Cuban man detained by ICE dies in custody
Pérez is the fifth person to die in Florida in 2025

Isidro Pérez spent his life by the sea: first, during his childhood in Cuba, and at the end, on a house-boat off the coast of Key Largo with his dogs.
He arrived in the U.S. in 1966 at the age of 16 and worked as a mechanic and fisherman. In the early 1980s, he was convicted of marijuana possession, but his family said he turned his life around. His daughter and six stepchildren offered to buy him an apartment in his later years, but he declined.
“He was like a bird that didn’t want to be caged up,” his stepdaughter, Alba Patricia Gomez, told reporters.
On June 5, five immigration officers arrested Pérez, 75, at a community center. A photo taken by a family friend of the moment shows Pérez with a long, white beard. His hands are behind his back. Officers took him to Krome North Service Processing Center in Miami.
Three weeks later, on Thursday, Isidro Perez died in U.S. Immigration and Customs custody. A government statement shows he had been in the hospital the day before for a heart condition.
“I don’t understand what’s really going on, we’re all human,” Gomez said. “Why are they picking up 75-year-old people?”

 

So you "read between the lines" huh? You were able to discern a "great replacement theory"? It seems that when one holds a worldview that everything is about race, then everything is about race even when race is not the discussion. To a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

 

Reading between the lines was quite generous on my part. Here's a direct quote from you:

"Skew populations" is an interesting phrase, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you dont mean "less white." But you clearly think that based on the countries of origin, these people will vote one way, refuse to assimilate or are inherently "left" oriented. Is that not a racist assumption? You are kinda conceding that Republicans are the party of white people, and of course non-whites would never vote for them, arent you? Why else the assumption that immigration only advantages one side politically? It doesnt even bear out factually speaking. Immigrants love to shut the door behind them, its the American way.

 

Clearly, the man was a Menace to Society.

Five Immigration officers to pick up one old man? Seriously?

Congratulations, Trump, your inhumane policy got another criminal off the streets. Killed him, even. I guess DeSantis will instruct ICE to hit all the senior citizen centers to fill the Alligator Alley facility.

 

I will say this: If that info is correct and we are indeed deporting people who have thus far done nothing wrong, or are in the process of obtaining citizenship, we need to make some changes in ICE procedures. I'm still a supporter of deportations, but also feel as though we should have a secondary setup for illegals who are trying to do the right thing. Document them, get all their data in a system, not allow them free assistance that burdens our charitable systems, etc., etc.
It would save us money in the long run, because what we are doing now is expensive, and lacks public support. Students on visa's are fine, but if they are agitators for foreign countries against our country's beliefs, they should indeed be revoked.

 

Or, it doesn't matter what race/ethnicity of the immigrants. Their number is counted regardless. The blue states adopted sanctuary policies to attract these individuals, thus swelling the numbers to be counted for representational apportionment - whether those individuals vote (legally or not) is entirely beside the point. Their simple residence in the blue state counts as population under the census to determine congressional apportionment. If two million Canadians flooded into Montana because Montana wanted to increase its congressional apportionment of representatives, the argument would be the same. Your assumptions that my statements are anything other than as stated are derived from viewing everything through your racial perspective.

 

Absolutely. It's been said that the best way to win repeal of a bad law is to vigorously enforce it. After four years of Trump deporting otherwise law-abiding and productive albeit undocumented immigrants, we may finally see the first comprehensive immigration reform act since 1986 although with Trump in the White House it won't happen until 2029 even if the Democrats manage to win majorities in both the House and the Senate in the midterms with former being likely and the latter possible albeit a long shot.

 

BINGO. Instead of doing this with a scalpel, this administration chose a hatchet. We have always deported those convicted of serious crimes and the fact that numbers showing most of those we are now detaining are not criminals, confirms that the laws we already have are working. There was a LOT of talk before the election about how costly this was going to be.

Our government has used the border as a talking point for decades. trump has made them the boogie man because he couldn't run on anything else.

As far as student visas, there is nothing in their paperwork that states they don't have freedom of speech while on our soil, so revoking a student visa is a no go with me. No one would come here for any reason if we degraded the constitution in that way.

 

Obama deported - not stopped at border, but DEPORTED - over 5 million people. Was that scalpel or hatchet? If the numbers maintain, deportations under Trump will not come anywhere close to the numbers of deportations under Obama.

Any person permitted to enter/stay in our country on a visa who incites discord or disturbs the peace is subject to removal. That has been the law for decades. It is the law of (nearly?) every other country as well. Give it a try, go to Mexico, Spain, Japan, etc. and start a demonstration against their government as a guest on a visa. Removal will be the least of your concerns. The USA is probably the most tolerant country in the world to allow non-citizens to speak freely.

 

While I agree on the part about vigorous enforcement forcing the law to change, I actually believe that Trump should be the one to start it. Beat back all the progressives to prove a point of being able to do it, then propose a change in the law to clean up all the mess that now exists, knowing we now have control of the boarder to prevent it from occurring again. He could do it, and there's nothing the Dems could do to stop it.

 

While that hypothetical plays out, colored immigrants like me who have done everything right will be collateral damage. Heck, I’m scared to go to a Home Depot these days and I’m scared for my 16 year old son who just started driving. That’s the reality for me while people here make jokes about getting eaten by alligators.

 

States adopted "sanctuary" policies because law enforcement was more effective to deal with other crimes, not because they want more people or to gain a political advantage - cities are jerrymandered into pieces where it might matter in election outcomes lol. Most cities have a big housing problem as it is and no one wants to deal with that either. Ultimately, who's going to finger their rapist or help cops catch a gang member if they might get deported themselves? That's why those policies exist, to prioritize real crimes that dont involve crossing an imaginary line.

 

There in lies the rub and elemental defect in your argument. Ask every other nation about their "imaginary lines." There is kinda a big fight going on right now in eastern Europe over one of these "imaginary lines." And that's just one example out of many concerning sovereignty, mineral rights, geopolitical defense, etc. over "imaginary lines."

 

So Obama deported millions, but 'the left' is trying to keep them all here to skew the population?

 

No matter what your feeling are on immigration ... You would agree though that something like theft, sex trafficking, murder and rape and perhaps hundreds of other crimes are more important for regular city police to prioritize than being drafted into arresting people for crossing a border illegally who might help them solve those crimes?