Florida Builds ‘Alligator Alcatraz’ Detention Center for Migrants in Everglades

Speaking of "cherry-picking" even though immigrants both legal and illegal are statistically less likely to commit violent crimes than Americans citizens a day doesn't go by without Trump citing a tragic case in which an American very often a young woman has been the victim of a violent crime committed by an undocumented immigrant.

 

Previously mentioned the probability is that residents of a tent city in the Everglades will not fare well during a hurricane.

 

None of "those" people have the proper "cards" as dear leader likes to blabber. They are not the right skin tone, they are not rich, and they can't vote for Maga.... so expendables.

 

The lyrics of Woody Guthrie's 1948 song "Deportee" come to mind. The song is about a plane which crashed transporting deportees back to Mexico who were also considered expendables. An excerpt of Woody's lyrics.
My father's own father, he waded that river,
They took all the money he made in his life;
My brothers and sisters come working the fruit trees,
And they rode the truck till they took down and died.

Some of us are illegal, and some are not wanted,
Our work contract's out and we have to move on;
Six hundred miles to that Mexican border,
They chase us like outlaws, like rustlers, like thieves.

We died in your hills, we died in your deserts,
We died in your valleys and died on your plains.
We died 'neath your trees and we died in your bushes,
Both sides of the river, we died just the same.

The sky plane caught fire over Los Gatos Canyon,
A fireball of lightning, and shook all our hills,
Who are all these friends, all scattered like dry leaves?
The radio says, "They are just deportees"

Cover by Joan Baez

 

Yuk it up with some merch! How cool is that?

 

The good news is that with the gutting of the NWS, they won’t see it coming

 

Florida will be compensated completely for the cost by the Federal Government, so we are just providing a service to the country. If they now do the same at Camp Blanding the same will apply. All good in my opinion!

 

As I see it all of these people were encouraged to be here, even though it was illegal. Getting rid of them legally is difficult at best, but what most of us voted for. I therefore ignore all of those bleeding hearts that choose to post on here about it. No sympathy from me!

 

What is the acceptable number of United States citizens, especially young women, that must be subjected to violent crime by illegal aliens before their presence in the Unite States becomes too costly? What is the objective basis to tolerate the sacrifice of a single American life or their well being in exchange for the presence of a person that is illegally in the United States?

 

I am a proactive type of person, not reactive. This is purely reactive. We had a bill that would have made the process more efficient and moved people through from 5-6 years to 18 months. These "illegals" as ya'll like to label them, are students who's visas were revoked, people who have been here for years going through the system like it was presented to them, people who were born here and people who built businesses and worked harder than a lot of Americans. Are there criminals? I'm sure there are, buy you and your ilk have created more of them by moving the goal posts on what qualifies as a criminal.

It's reactive to just paint with a broad brush because it's easier to do so than to take the time to do real reform of the system. There is no talk about punishing businesses who hired them. You fell for a lie and one day you'll know it. You'll get no sympathy from me

 

As a conservative, its brave that you believe young women should only be subjected to violent crime, reproductive control and domination by their fellow Americans.

 

This admin actively worked to bring home Andrew Tate.

Their credibility on protecting women has about as much value as the poop my dog just did in the back yard.

 

So what you're saying is that detaining people who have never committed an actual crime under inhumane conditions will somehow prevent real criminal aliens from committing crimes?

 

Trump and Noem visited the AA facility, and he made this comment:

“We also have a lot of bad people that have been here for a long time, people that whack people over the head with a baseball bat from behind when they’re not looking and killing people, that knife you when you’re walking down the street. … Many of them were born in our country. I think we ought to get them the hell out of here, if you want to know the truth,” he said.

“So maybe that’ll be the next job that we’ll work on together,” he said. Under U.S. law, the government has no authority to deport citizens.

Pure fear mongering, with a side of unconstitutionality. Classic Trump.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/06/30/trump-alligator-alcatraz-immigrant-detention/

 

If only history had examples of slow walks down paths of what people would accept and bandwagon on.
Clearly there is a giant border problem for the past 50+ years. How we solve that problem defines us as a country.

 

Hmm turning citizens into non-citizens and sending them to camps where they are concentrated. No historical parallels there. Creating our own ghettos or Gazas for people who cant be deported to any country of origin which even more emboldened fascists will call for say, a 'final solution' to the problems they cause, whether here or in the nations we are paying to traffic them too.

 

Nope. The focus of the deportation efforts, beginning with Obama (over 5million deported) through the current administration, are the recently arrived "immigrants" who entered the country illegally. It was the mass importation of illegal immigrants under Biden that has created this mess - all to the detriment of the students on visa and hard workers that do contribute and were on path to citizenship. Dealing with and deporting the former is not an attack on the latter, but certainly creates confusion and disruption - which was the goal of the Left to begin with. Maybe adjust sympathies accordingly.

 

The word "import" suggests that the people lack agency (that is why we use the word for products, as products have no agency and we decide to bring them here). It is interesting that you are trying to strip immigrants of their agency.

But yes, the Trump administration is also purposefully attacking students on student visas and those on paths to citizenship. Those are all separate issues.

 

Nope
https://www.cato.org/blog/65-people-taken-ice-had-no-convictions-93-no-violent-convictions

As of June 14, ICE had booked into detention 204,297 individuals (since October 1, 2024, the start of fiscal year 2025). Of those book-ins, 65 percent, or 133,687 individuals, had no criminal convictions. Moreover, more than 93 percent of ICE book-ins were never convicted of any violent offenses. About nine in ten had no convictions for violent or property offenses. Most convictions (53 percent) fell into three main categories: immigration, traffic, or nonviolent vice crimes. The appendix table at the end of this post has data by detailed crime and broad crime categorization.

Obama turned them away at the border and there has always been influxes over the many years. Biden's was because of C19 shutting down the border as they all waited and accumulated on the other side. Once the supreme court ruled Biden could not continue Title 42, they flowed into the country. I'm not sure how that hurt people here on visas, maybe you could provide a link to where you were given that info?

I would say that most of those detainees were hard workers that were contributing to our economy, I've seen their stories.

 

What a load of navel-gazing, psycho-babble. It's no wonder why the left achieves so little other than creating new ways to complain.