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War in Ukraine

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by PITBOSS, Jan 21, 2022.

  1. duggers_dad

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    This OSINT is distinctly pro-Ukrainian

     
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  3. CaptUSMCNole

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    This is not great but with the conflict with Iran and Israel, there are some legit concerns here.

     
  4. PITBOSS

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    I guess I get holding up the missile interceptors but, if true, why halt the 155 mm shells which are critical for Ukraine?
     
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  5. CaptUSMCNole

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    I believe the Czech’s said they were sending a significant amount of 155 rounds to Ukraine this year.
     
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  6. chemgator

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    More info on the Friday attack on a Russian airfield where two Su-34 planes were destroyed. This was the base where other Russian planes flee to when their bases are under attack. It was supposed to be a safe zone for Russian military aircraft. Russia uses the Su-34 to launch glide bombs, which are one of the few weapons that are effective against Ukraine's army.

    Ukraine struck Russian warplanes at a base its fighter-bombers flee to when other airfields are in danger, intel says

     
  7. chemgator

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    Russia loses yet another Su-34 Fullback jet, this time demonstrating the ineptitude of their newest pilot trainees, one of whom forgot to lower his landing gear before landing. Looks like the most capable Russians fled the country at the outbreak of war, and this is what they are left with.

    Hopefully, this pilot will be given another plane so he can demonstrate proper landing technique . . . and then another one after he crashes that one.

    MSN

     
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  8. chemgator

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    Russia's defense industry is rapidly disintegrating. One of its leading jet manufacturers is laying off 1500 managers, after a decade of losing billions of rubles. It issued a statement saying that it wants to increase production by 30% while laying off massive numbers of these managers. (Uh, what were they managing?)

    Russia's fighter jet maker wants to crank out 30% more warplanes while laying off 1,500 managers.

     
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  9. chemgator

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    Ukraine conducts a drone attack on a weapons factory 800 miles inside of Russia. The factory made drones and air defense systems.

    https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-drones-c1aa7c5ce5deb89a4654cd41af6a5ec9

     
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  10. chemgator

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    Russia has been trying to push through 50,000 troops through Sumy at Ukraine's northern border to try to make a breakthrough, but Ukraine is holding them at bay. Both sides are using a lot of special forces.

    Fight On Ukraine's Northern Border Sees Elite Troops Poured In From Both Sides

     
  11. gator_jo

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    Can't ever forget that Trump is helping Russia, in as many unseen ways as possible.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/02/...sia-sanctions.html?smid=nytcore-android-share


    Lack of New U.S. Sanctions Allows Restricted Goods and Funds Into Russia

    President Trump has issued no new restrictions on Russia this year, in effect allowing Moscow to acquire the money and materials it needs in its conflict with Ukraine.

    The result has created an opening for new dummy companies to funnel funds and critical components to Russia, including computer chips and military equipment that would otherwise be cut off to the Kremlin, trade and corporate records show.
     
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  12. VAg8r1

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    Not really surprised. The Donald is still Vladimir's bitch despite his occasional statements to the contrary. Said it before his actions or lack thereof speak much louder than his words. If Trump is really serious about forcing Russia to the negotiating table he would have long increased aid to Ukraine as well increasing economic sanctions on Russia.
     
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  13. vegasfox

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    Luhansk has been 100% liberated from the authoritarian nazi-influenced Kiev government.

     
  14. CaptUSMCNole

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    You are quoting the Russian Embassy in Kenya?
     
  15. CaptUSMCNole

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    This is more Bridge Coby. His concern is making sure we are ready to go if China decides to invade in '27. That would mean we would only have the stocks that we currently have and can manufacture in the next 18 months. I think we went through a decent amount of rounds during the 12 Day War and back in October. It is part of the reason the Trump Admin was pushing so hard for a settlement to the Ukrainian conflict. I think the Ukrainians are starting to be able to source a lot of the things they need from non-US sources, like their new internally developed cruise missile, then they will be able to stay in this war. The Patriot AD System is a high demand low density asset and I'm not sure we can keep up the same level of resupply as we had with 2027 getting closer. We just need to keep providing Intel and Logistics support to the AFU.

    I think this is the same reason why Trump is pressuring Israel to end the war in Gaza when Hamas is not entirely defeated. Time to get US munitions and assets out of the Middle East and over to PACOM.
     
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  16. exiledgator

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    This is a believable theory, but it just seems like continued weakness.

    Biden / Sullivan should have shoved more chips in on this at the begining, but instead we just keep donking off chips to this day. We're the chip leader, be the bully.

    Instead, we're bleeding chips all over the table and letting the second place stack grow. Had we felted a few people already, we'd be in a far better position against the rest of the field.

    /pokeranalogy
     
  17. CaptUSMCNole

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    It's just poor planning. NATO has been supporting the AFU for three years in a high intensity conflict when our defense industrial base has not been told to get on a war time footing. That is something the Biden Admin should have done.
     
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  18. vegasfox

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    Why not? There must be a hundred X posts saying that the people of Luhansk have been liberated. Do you think they wanted to be part of Ukraine?
     
  19. CaptUSMCNole

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    So you are admitting you are just pushing Russian propaganda that this point?

    Also did you saw that the Russian Foreign Minister was the most respected diplomat in the world?
     
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  20. vegasfox

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    I push reality. For the most part so do Putin and Lavrov. One day Russia will be our ally

    You might want to do some research on Anton Gerashchenko. Don't know much about him myself but I've seen Ukrainians on X calling him a [Stepan] Bandera lover, a national socialist, a associate of the Azov battalion and other battalions set up to oppress the Russian-speaking majority in the Donbas.