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Trump- “We have a buyer for TikTok

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by g8orbill, Jun 29, 2025 at 1:13 PM.

  1. Donzo

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    Mr. whited sepulcher strikes again.
     
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  2. Contra

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    It is worth noting that we are allowing a totalitarian communist regime to write a social media algorithm that chooses the social media content consumed by our youth. This is a totalitarian regime that is also killing Americans through smuggling fentanyl into our country. A hostile regime in a state of cold war against our country should not have such massive control over an algorithm that chooses what the youth sees and does not see. That is a big problem:

    Because it’s a Beijing-based company, there’s broad agreement that the Chinese Communist Party wields control over Bytedance. And Douyin has proven a perfect domestic propaganda tool: a direct line of communication with China’s youth to pump out pro-social and pro-China messages.

    Perhaps that’s why Chinese kids are shooting for the stars while American kids are shooting for virtual stardom. The most popular career ambition among American youth is an influencer. In China it’s an astronaut.

    “It’s almost like they recognize that technology is influencing kids’ development, and they make their domestic version a spinach version of TikTok, while they ship the opium version to the rest of the world,” former Google employee and Center for Humane Technology founder Tristan Harris told “60 Minutes.”

    While Bytedance is careful to socially engineer positive outcomes for its country’s own kids, it’s equally capable of devising negative outcomes in rival nations — which is precisely why experts have dubbed TikTok “a dagger pointed at the heart of the United States.”


    China is hurting US kids with TikTok, but protecting its own

    Say what you want, but the algorithm was a form of warfare against our country. If Trump twisted China's arm to change the algorithm, then that might be a good thing.
     
  3. gator_jo

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    By "we" you mean Donald Trump, of course.

    Based on his past behavior and criminality, we can be close to certain he's allowing this either because they're bribing him or they're manipulating the algorithm in his favor.
     
  4. Contra

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    I simply mean our country is allowing it, and there are several people who have been involved in allowing it including DJT. Trump is trying to negotiate a deal where a Chinese company sells it to a US company. So, he either needs to get the deal done or kick Tik Tok out of the US.
     
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  5. wgbgator

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    They've had a buyer for awhile, so not really news. China has been holding signing off as leverage.
     
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    I'm sure he'll get a favorable check for it. Like everything. Don't like TicTok. Enter check. Likes TicTok!!!
     
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    More like Thinking is "too lib". Only reactionary here folks!!!!
     
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    You mean like you guys and Biden?

    Oh no, it's utterly preposterous to suggest there even is such a thing as BDS ;)

    I'm not sure if its lack of self awareness or just an open tongue kiss with hypocrisy with the MAGA folks, but it's definitely one or both.
     
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    Where do we start. . .
     
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    This is a prime example of the issue we have as a country when it comes to trump and anything he does. Supporters trust him explicitly, while everyone else can't trust them as far as we could spit him.

    Facebook used to vet their posts and remove misinformation, since trump was "elected", they have eliminated that, so yeah, there is skepticism with any deal trump says is in the works to buy one of the last freedom of speech apps out there. If he's involved, we lose.
     
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  11. CHFG8R

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    Well, that's a positive spin on it. Or there is the simple fact he doesn't care. The big investor here in the states already wrote a sizable check and more are certainly to come. It's hilarious how you try to have it both ways (CCP trojan horsing your kid's brains/"might be a good thing") and still accuse people of TDS. LOL!

    Straight 10s on the mental gymnastics.
     
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    I never trusted TicTok. Put the two together and do the math, not forgetting to factor in that he was the originator of the TicTok ban.
     
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    Personally from an ol' man's POV, and a father to three girls who worship TikTok, I wouldn't mind at all to see TikTok die a fast and painful death... A lot of the stuff on there just makes me SMH... But like I said, that's just me and my ol' man's views, and probably off topic...
     
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  14. FutureGatorMom

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    Ya'll are getting touchy. I've been spelling his name that way forever.
     
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    I can't speak for other posters, but I have mainly been a policy driven voter and a policy driven critic of Biden, Harris, and the Democrats. From a governmental perspective how a person exercises the power of their political office, whether that be for good or for evil, is the most significant thing about someone who holds political office. Do our political office holders rule in a just way? Do they pursue policies and policy actions that are just or unjust? Do our political office holders do the right thing with the power that has been given them? Those are the question I have been primarily concerned with as a voter.

    It is not the only thing that matters, though. I was reading Acts 12:20-25 yesterday, and it is one of the direct examples of God's direct judgment on a magistrate because Herod did not give glory to God. As I was reading it, I could not help but think about recent events where Trump thanked God after we bombed Iran's nuclear facilities. It seemed like a sincere, genuine, off the script acknowledgement that God was involved in the success of the US military and deserved to be thanked and acknowledged. I know there might be some people out there who might be revulsed at entertaining the thought that Trump might give glory to God, but I would ask them are they revulsed at the thought that the thief on the cross would give glory to God after the kind of life he lived?

    Nonetheless, I agree with you that a symmetric category exists parallel to TDS on the other side of the political spectrum. You could call it BDS if you wanted to, or if we are looking at BDS through the same moral and ethical lens as TDS, you could say there is a category for political gossip and political slander on the right side of the political spectrum. The catch here, though, is the existence of a category does not provide justification to immediately implicate an entire group in an accusation. You should have very specific examples with receipts before publicly leveling an accusation at someone. It is the unfair and unjust measuring of evidence and unjustly and over-zealously reaching conclusions about a person's motive and guilt in light of insufficient evidence that is at the heart of TDS. This is a 10 commandments issue, which forbids bearing false witness against your neighbor. It is not loving to bear false witness against your neighbor, and DJT is your neighbor as is Biden. Human nature is sinful, so both sides will have people who gossip and slander. That does not mean, however, that everyone on both sides engages in this behavior or engages in it equally.
     
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    Hmm, really? Where were you in the primaries? Fighting in the trenches with Bluke for Haley?

    It is what it is man. You claim independence, but defend MAGA like they're your children. I see all this "independence" stated, but the actions tell a different story. Face it. People like to wave their pom poms and really don't like to think much. And that's probably the most embarrassing part about being American right now.

    Again, we had some great choices on the table. We ended up with Trump v Harris. That's on us.
     
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    I never once lifted a finger for Trump in a primary. In 2016, I actually was debating between voting for Cruz and Rubio in the primary, trying to figure out which of the two had the best chance of beating Trump. It did not matter because Trump got more votes than both of them combined. I voted for Cruz in 2016. I still think Ted Cruz would be my top choice, although that is always under evaluation.

    I have never claimed to be an independent voter. I typically vote Republican down the line because of policy, but that is always under evaluation as well. I would heavily prefer see someone else at the top of the ticket in 2028, though.

    You see this is where you and I will sharply disagree. We have something in our constitution called the rights of the accused, and it is rooted in a biblical moral principle that great caution and restraint should be involved when speaking evil of our neighbor. The apostle Paul said in 1 Corinthians 6:9-11:

    Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
    This passage is sobering because it states very plainly that certain behaviors if not repented and departed from will keep a person out of the kingdom of heaven and lead to certain judgment. There are many things listed in 1 Corinthians 6:9-11, but of particular interest in the discussion between you and I on this topic is the word the apostle Paul uses that is translated "revilers." I have seen lexicons offer the alternate translation of "railer" rather than "reviler." I believe it would be a soul endangering error for you to view our disagreement as purely political and partisan. This is far beyond that because unrepentant reviling or railing seals a person's eternal destiny. That is what Paul is saying, and he says "do not be deceived" because it is very easy to be deceived into thinking you are engaging in a behavior that is harmless, as many people are also easily deceived about the other behaviors prohibited by the apostle Paul. I also think it is worth pausing and considering the extremely addicting and enslaving nature of the other sins also listed in the passage. You might believe I defend Trump because it is some kind of loyalty to MAGA, but I would encourage you to look at this from a different perspective and examine yourself to see if you are guilty of reviling and railing in the Biblical sense and therefore in danger of exclusion from the kingdom of heaven. There is nothing more valuable than your soul. The apostle Paul closes the passage with a statement that many of the Corinthians could have formerly been described this way, but they no longer are because of the power of Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit. It is the washing of Christ’s blood that takes away the guilt of sin, and then it is the sanctifying power of the Holy Spirit that transforms a person into a new creature that serves God. So there is a way out, but that involves some divine intervention from above. If you seek God, then I believe you will find deliverance.
     
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