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Are You Concerned that the CBO Says the Trump Bill Will Cause 11.8 Million to Lose Health Care?

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by gator_jo, Jun 29, 2025 at 10:25 PM.

Are You Concerned that the CBO Says the Trump Bill Will Cause 11.8 Million to Lose Health Care?

  1. No

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  2. No, it is the price we must pay for such an awesome bill

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  3. Yes

    7 vote(s)
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  4. Yes, it is shockingly counterproductive and inhumane

    18 vote(s)
    56.3%
  1. gator_jo

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    I find it insane how few people care about this. How do you feel?
     
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  2. G8tas

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    Anyone that votes no will likely either be retired or have a pension they can rely on when they retire
     
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  3. vaxcardinal

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    Does the 11.8 million include those that are able to work but chose not to so they can get free healthcare? Just want to make sure I understand what went into that number before voting
     
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  4. OklahomaGator

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    I asked this question in the other thread and no one answered so I will do it again here. What was the total amount of Medicaid spending in the current budget? What is the total amount of Medicaid spending in this proposed budget?
     
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  5. gator_jo

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    Not sure, but there's this ....(from the NYT.)

    That should be credible enough to start the discussion. How do you feel about this?

    Screenshot_20250629_192402_NYTimes.jpg
     
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  6. vaxcardinal

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    In FY24, the government spent under $600B in Medicaid. Don’t know what’s in the proposed budget.
     
  7. OklahomaGator

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    I still want to see the actual dollar amounts.
     
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  8. vaxcardinal

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    Just found it…the BBB calls for a reduction of $793B over 10 years. Don’t know what the yearly breakout is.
     
  9. vegasfox

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    In Singapore everybody has excellent healthcare coverage as far as I can tell. Really poor people pay nothing. Cost is roughly 30% of what Americans pay as a percent of GDP. In 2021 18.3% of GDP was spent on healthcare in the US, 5.57% in Singapore (per Grok).

    Why don't we make our healthcare system more like Singapore's? Have Democrats ever voted for anyone who would be open to transitioning towards such a system, ever?

    gator_jo should look into a mirror and ponder what went wrong inside his/her liberal mind. Why the preference for our current mostly socialist (per Milton Friedman) healthcare system?

    Judge policies and programs not by their intentions but by their results.--Milton Friedman

    Anything the government can do private enterprise can do at half the cost.--MF

    gator_jo wants the government to protect the people. "The more urgent concern is to protect the people from the government."--MF

    How to Cure Healthcare
    by Milton Friedman
    How to Cure Health Care | Hoover Institution How to Cure Health Care
     
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  10. sierragator

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    It's what the gop wants. FAFO for those who will lose coverage who voted for this.
     
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  11. mdgator05

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    The majority of "savings" on work requirements don't come from people who are poor and choose not to work. It is the administrative burden of filling out all the paperwork necessary to continuously prove your work status. In fact, previous work requirements actually were associated with declines in employment amongst those with the requirement (some of which, at least, is likely due to declines in health).

    https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJMsr1901772
     
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  12. CHFG8R

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    Nah. Moocher class.
     
  13. vaxcardinal

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    That’s nice but doesn’t answer my question
     
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    It actually does if you think about it.
     
  15. vaxcardinal

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    I have thought about it and concluded that it doesnt
     
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  16. QGator2414

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    Oh the bleeding hearts...

    No one is losing "healthCARE"
     
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    Louisiana hospital leaders: Medicaid cuts threaten lives and communities

    "The impact of provisions in the United States Senate’s version of the One Big Beautiful Bill Act reflects an estimated annual loss of more than $4 billion in total Medicaid funding for Louisiana healthcare providers. This will negatively impact our ability to deliver care and have devastating consequences for our state budget. The American Hospital Association estimates an annual job loss of 16,767 and a 10-year loss of tax revenue at $50.7 million for every $1 billion reduction in Medicaid spending. These economic consequences pale in comparison to the harm that would be caused to residents across the state, regardless of insurance status, who would no longer be able to get the care that they need. The House version, while it presented challenges, is a more workable solution which would help to avoid many of these effects."
     
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  18. vegasfox

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    Another liberal attempt to save healthcare
     
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  19. QGator2414

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    Again. No one is losing their healthCARE.
     
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  20. mikemcd810

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    Do you mean that you, and people you personally know, won't lose their health insurance coverage so you don't care?
     
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