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War in Ukraine

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by PITBOSS, Jan 21, 2022.

  1. oragator1

    oragator1 Hurricane Hunter Premium Member

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    Who would have been chosen by Prager because he fits the narrative Prager wants, in the same way the “experts” that MSNBC and Fox trot out always seem to toe the company line.
    It’s actually a really interesting discussion if you dig into it, but it’s not really relevant for this thread, so I’ll let it go. The larger points I agree with anyway.
     
  2. chemgator

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    The people obviously value human life (certainly their own), but the current leadership does not. Putin worships Stalin and considers him to be Russia's greatest modern (wartime) leader, and that's why he rehabilitated Stalin's reputation at the start of this invasion. He just didn't realize that the war would take so long and that the sacrifices that Russia would have to make would be so significant for a non-existential war.
     
  3. duggers_dad

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    Guy has 5.2M followers …

     
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  4. CaptUSMCNole

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  5. okeechobee

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    Did you actually read beyond the propaganda headline? First, the "Kyiv Independent," lol. But the article infers the Russian ambassador to the U.K. confessed to 'staggering losses,' which is intentionally vague. (could mean 4,000 for all we know). Then article proceeds to not even provide the actual quote the Russian ambassador allegedly spoke. You realize stuff like this undercuts your position even further?
     
  6. uftaipan

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    There’s lots of articles out there on the subject. Take your pick.
    Russia Unwittingly Confirms Ukraine’s Estimates of Russian Casualties in Ukraine

    But if you’re going to be convinced only a few Russians have died, that they continue to sit this close to decisive victory, that air superiority is a thing of the past just because Russia can’t do it, and so on, then I’m not sure what direct quotations from a Russian ambassador I could provide you that would mean anything to you anyway.
     
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  7. oragator1

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    Interestingly, I just heard on cable news that the drone factories in Iran were one of the targets of the strikes there. Wonder what it means for Russia/Ukraine.
     
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  8. demosthenes

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    Somewhere up thread there was a report of NK contemplating sending 25,000 workers to Russia to build the Shahed drones in Russia.
     
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  9. slayerxing

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    Unfortunately, Russia is now building most of those drones that Iran had originally provided - or so I have read.
     
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  10. CaptUSMCNole

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    Not much. Iran did not have enough inventory to send to Russia after last October.
     
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  11. chemgator

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    Ukraine attacks a fuel and oil train behind enemy lines with drones and destroys 11 railcars.

    MSN

     
  12. chemgator

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    Russia's economy is apparently running out of steam. The end of the Ukraine War is near, and things don't look so good for the Russians. Russia is experiencing a "chronic labor shortage". The article mentions that the war in the middle east is good for Russia, but even with that, they are in a state of "managed decline".

    Looks like it's time for Russian propagandists to find a new line of work.

    Russia’s economy boomed after the invasion of Ukraine—it’s now running out of steam

     
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    Hope you’re right. Now is the time for the rest of Ukraine’s allies to push for advantage while President Trump is distracted/in a good mood over Iran.
     
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    Generally speaking, I hate it when President Trump runs his mouth in a boorish, unstatesmanlike way. Ninety-nine times out of one hundred, it has no place in American politics, certainly not in international affairs. This is the hundredth instance. One thing that has been sorely lacking since the Ukraine War started has been the U.S., when it’s appropriate, matching Russian fecal dialogue, especially when that dum dum Medvedev threatens us with nuclear weapons. A rejoinder like this one is years overdue. I know many of us wish someone other than President Trump was saying this. But it needed to be said. I’m sick of Medvedev running his mouth at us.

    https://metro.co.uk/2025/06/23/trum...-ever-built-russia-gives-iran-nukes-23487263/
     
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  20. PITBOSS

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    Good job Zelensky. He finally got his 1/1.

    A big gulf for politicians between saying and doing, ESPECIALLY Dear Leader. But below is encouraging …...

    “Trump, after meeting with Zelensky on the sidelines of the summit, said in the press conference the U.S. would look to provide more Patriot air-defense missiles for Ukraine. He also didn’t rule out sending more money to Ukraine for its security, which would add to the $35 billion in additional assistance that NATO allies are providing.

    It’s more difficult than people would have any idea. Vladimir Putin has been more difficult,” Trump said at the end of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization summit here. “Vladimir Putin really has to end that war.”

    Trump added that he was going to speak with Putin to “see if we can get it ended” but didn’t provide a date for the conversation.

    It was a sharp turnaround for Trump, who previously labeled Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky as being more culpable for the war. Trump punctuated his criticism of Putin with praise for Zelensky. “He’s fighting a brave battle. It’s a tough battle,” Trump said.”

    https://www.wsj.com/world/trump-cal...a1a64?st=wrFtNf&reflink=article_copyURL_share
     
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