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Louisiana Becomes First State To Require Ten Commandments In Public School Classrooms

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by mrhansduck, Jun 19, 2024.

  1. gaterzfan

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    Well, I guess it’s really a matter of ….. viewing the world through the lens of the Bible or viewing the Bible through the lens of the world.

     
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  2. gatorwells

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    Well John Adams helped draft the Commonwealth of Massachusetts state constitution, which supported the Anglican Church. Prior to the 14th Amendment, many of the early colonies had strong Christian pronouncements in their state constitutions. There has never been a strict separation of church and state. The Pledge of Allegiance, in God We Trust on our money, prayer invocations at all levels of government. I see no issue with putting the Ten Commandments up in schools in Louisiana. It’s their right to do so under the 10th Amendment.
     
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  3. coleg

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    Are quotes from several other religions also acceptable with you to be posted in a public school as a requirement?
     
  4. gaterzfan

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    If the state legislature passes such a mandate. Why not?

     
  5. coleg

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    States are allowed to enact laws that are expressly prohibited by the US Constitution now?
     
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  6. mdgator05

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    "Supported the Anglican Church" is an interesting phrase. The Constitution in Massachusetts explicitly forbade one church from being established as superior to others.
     
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  7. ridgetop

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    I’m not a fan of any religion being in any public school. No more Ten Commandments, no more prayers of any kind, no more religious exceptions for things. There are more and more private schools that cater to those needs.
     
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  8. gatorwells

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    Other religions have similar ethical guidelines for governing human relationships that are similar. I wouldn’t have a problem at all with a state government passing a law that allows for that. But the Ten Commandments encompass ethical guidelines that are recognized by all three Abrahamic faiths. It’s a good start.
     
  9. gatorwells

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    Not sure of the precise language but pretty sure Article III of the state constitution allowed for a religious tax to support Protestant churches and Christian teachers of pious and good moral character up until 1833. 7 of the original states promoted a state religion of Christian origin (most likely Anglican) through taxes. We were very much a Christian country in early America no matter what Thomas Jefferson said or did.
     
  10. gatorwells

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    Tenth Amendment. The 14th Amendment, which was never really ratified properly during Reconstruction, paved the way for activist courts to by applying some of the Bill of Rights — including the First Amendment— to the states.
     
  11. mdgator05

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    It should be noted that this article was not written by Adams, was of questionable legality in terms of its passage and content, and was stricken in 1833. But even still, it explicitly forbids the establishment of a religion as superior to others.
     
  12. gatorwells

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    The establishment of one Christian denomination as superior to others. It was also John Adams who followed George Washington in establishing a national day of prayer before Jefferson Pooh poohed it.
     
  13. gatorjd95

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    Not clear of your message/intent here. Are you supportive of the growth of religious schools as a rebuke/reaction of government censorship to allow religion? Or, are you supportive of the growth of religious schools to weed out the religious people from government schools?
     
  14. mrhansduck

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    The other side of that coin is if the First Amendment did not apply to the states, presumably states could ban religious worship altogether?
     
  15. gatorwells

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    They could if their state constitutions allowed for it.
     
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  16. Gatorrick22

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    I wonder what it says about groomers?
     
  17. reboundgtr

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    I'd be impressed if they posted the original Bill of Rights instead of this bible stuff. Or put a QR code link to the constitution.
     
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  18. duggers_dad

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    I don’t understand why Christians push so hard for Old Testament stuff.

    While I’m on the subject, why do they televise The Ten Commandments on Easter Sunday ?
     
  19. gaterzfan

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    Call or email the network broadcasting the movie.

     
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  20. mrhansduck

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    After court strikes down similar law, Texas requires Ten Commandments in schools

    Court says requiring Ten Commandments in schools is unconstitutional. Abbott just made it law

    One day after a federal appeals court struck down a Louisiana law requiring schools to post the Protestant Ten Commandments in classrooms, Gov. Greg Abbott cleared the way for a similar law in Texas.

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    On Sept. 1, public schools must visibly display a poster sized at least 16 by 20 inches that solely includes the Ten Commandments as written in the bill, which was sponsored by Weatherford Republican Sen. Phil King. Louisiana's law requires the Ten Commandments to be a "central focus" on a hanging or framed display that is at least 11 inches by 14 inches.

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    Louisiana attorney general Liz Murrill plans to ask the full appeals court to review the case. If the Louisiana law is held unconstitutional and does not get accepted for review by the U.S. Supreme Court, it will be deemed invalid in any state within its jurisdiction, including Texas.
     
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