I said in this matter… I know Trump is a dumbass. Only an old fool repeats themselves about how crazy he is. We know and we get it. He’s still better than anything the libbies got. Deal with it and move on.
Meanwhile the right thinks anyone who doesn’t worship Trump is a liberal. There are plenty of conservative posters in this section have been accused of being liberals by MAGAs who can confirm.
Exclusive: Early US intel assessment suggests strikes on Iran did not destroy nuclear sites, sources say CNN — The US military strikes on three of Iran’s nuclear facilities last weekend did not destroy the core components of the country’s nuclear program and likely only set it back by months, according to an early US intelligence assessment that was described by four people briefed on it. The assessment, which has not been previously reported, was produced by the Defense Intelligence Agency, the Pentagon’s intelligence arm. It is based on a battle damage assessment conducted by US Central Command in the aftermath of the US strikes, one of the sources said. The analysis of the damage to the sites and the impact of the strikes on Iran’s nuclear ambitions is ongoing, and could change as more intelligence becomes available. But the early findings are at odds with President Donald Trump’s repeated claims that the strikes “completely and totally obliterated” Iran’s nuclear enrichment facilities. Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth also said on Sunday that Iran’s nuclear ambitions “have been obliterated.” Redirect Notice
No, just look at someone's posting history to figure it out. Your posting history says you are far left. Just own it.
I'd hold off on believing that assessment until someone at DIA or CENTCOM comes out and gives official word. We do not know who the the two people who leaked this to CNN and their background to know how to read a DBA assessment. The people we really want to hear from is the Israelis. They will be the ones to really know how things stand on the ground through their HUMINT.
If you listen to what she said, she didn’t deny the veracity of the report, only that it was wrong because our bombs are really big. Of course there will be further assessments and things could change, but never in a million years will our people say anything other than how amazing it was and how smart Trump was for doing it, because it would mean publicly telling Trump he is wrong, and we all know that simply isn’t allowed. I would also highly doubt that the Israelis would publicly contradict him either. The only way we will ever know this was accurate is if either Iran announces they have a nuclear weapon however long from now, or Israel says screw it and goes back in to do more damage. But this would help explain why Iran was happy to have a ceasefire, they essentially won if it’s true. They can cut off from inspections now, the U.S. only comes back in by admitting they’re wrong and our awesome tech isn’t as great as claimed, the Israelis have been reined in by us, and Iran is basically free to go back to whatever they were doing. If true this is a fail on almost every level. If by chance we did destroy it, then it’s a pretty solid win. But good luck getting the truth given the parties we are dealing with.
NYTimes reporting something similar but could be circular reporting. There is likely a ton of pressure on those IMINT guys and they might be being overly cautious on the initial report because they would rather give better news later than have to walk a brighter assessment back.
Where did I quote "anything she said"? I'm basing my opinion of 10+ years of doing targeting and knowing how BDA is developed. What that BDA initial report is likely based on is a bunch of IMINT folks that can only look at imagery and make educated guesses on what they would expect a successful strike to look like versus what an unsuccessful strike would look like. It is still too early to be expecting any SIGINT/HUMINT reporting on it since the Iranians have not been able to get down into the facilities and see what is actually destroyed and what isn't. I know a lot of folks around here do not like Bibi but the one thing he is obsessed with is keeping the Iranians from getting a nuclear bomb and there is no doubt how far the Mossad has penetrated Iran's nuclear program. I doubt all their sources dried up over the last 12 days. If the Iranians still have a viable nuclear program, Bibi will say so.
It gets really difficult to know who to believe with something like this. I don't have much faith that an official spokesperson or senior military leader would be permitted to publicly state that the mission was anything other than a complete success. It's certainly possible that people are speaking to the media without fully understanding the situation, but unfortunately I'm more inclined to believe this than whatever official word we end up getting unless it comes with some sort of verifiable information or corroboration. That could just be my bias against the administration, but I think it's a reasonable conclusion regardless.
I specifically said there could be later assessments that change the early thoughts, my only point that you said you’d wait for official sources. I am saying no one will contradict Trump publicly, so all we will hear from any official public report is that this was the most awesome mission ever in the history of the universe, which may or may not be true. It’s just another casualty of this presidency. And if BiBi contradicts him publicly he risks being shut out when he will likely need him most, because telling Trump he was wrong never ends well. I despise Bibi but he isn’t dumb. If I’m proven wrong so be it, I’d be happy…but Trump’s history is clear, as are those of his sycophants. Jmo.
Doubt any HUMINT data is available and extremely limited SIGINT at this juncture. Give it a couple weeks. Challenge with IMINT is that this the first use if this ordnance so assessment accuracy is not as good as it could be if other things were used.
Uh oh https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...-bomb-assessment-nuclear-sites-not-destroyed/ An initial U.S. intelligence report assesses that airstrikes ordered by President Donald Trump against Iran’s nuclear facilities set Tehran’s program back by months but did not eliminate it, contradicting claims by Trump and his top aides about the mission’s success, according to two people familiar with the report. The classified report by the Defense Intelligence Agency is based on the Pentagon’s early bomb damage assessmentof the strikes on nuclear sites at Fordow, Natanz and Isfahan using earth-penetrating munitions carried by B-2 bombers and Tomahawk missiles launched from submarines.
Nobody is asking what I regard the obvious question which is, why is Israel allowed to (supposedly) have dozens of nukes but Iran can’t have one ?
