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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by g8orbill, Jun 21, 2025.

  1. FutureGatorMom

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    600?? I never saw that. I just know I'm getting just under 44mpg. Most of my driving for work is within 2-4 miles from my home, making it so I only fill up once a month.
     
  2. vaxcardinal

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    this was on the 2020 model. Turns out there were some gas tank and sensor issues that existed. They did a fix of the sensor which improved things some. I get can get close to 44mpg in the summer but usually around 38mpg in the winter. how many gallons of gas can you put in the tank?
     
  3. FutureGatorMom

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    I just got it in April, so I think we filled up once or twice. I'm thinking it's a 16 gallon, but not 100% sure. I'd have to find the receipts.
     
  4. DesertGator

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    Sorry, you can't pay me enough to own a Tesla. Nothing to do with Elon and everything to do with a car that gets its updates to performance and efficiency OTA. The differences between the top and bottom efficiency trims of a given model is primarily software-based.

    This is just a half step from someone holding a vehicle in a Ransomware scam as far as I'm concerned.
     
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  5. vaxcardinal

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    I think the problem has since been fixed. Tank should be 14 gallons. Still love the car though.
     
  6. demosthenes

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    I don’t own a Tesla (on my second Rivian), but this is one reason I’m unlikely to go back to a standard automaker. These are computers that need updates and they can addition significant functionality through them. The historic automakers require you to go to the dealership for these kinds of updates. I just tell my car to update from my app or on the dash (and it’s up to me whether I update or not).
     
  7. FutureGatorMom

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    I love Toyota products overall. My two Lexus never gave me a day of issues. I had each of them at least 5 years.
     
  8. DesertGator

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    It's very easy to purchase a device like OBDeleven and push those updates yourself. They require a direct (or dongle) plugin to the ODB port that most cars come equipped with. It's simply not something I would trust doing over the air (OTA). A wireless connection to your engine's timings is a massive cybersecurity vulnerability in my mind. Makes it easy to hold one's car hostage for Bitcoin.
     
  9. demosthenes

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    Hate to break it to you but we’ve moved to the cloud.
     
  10. DesertGator

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    That still doesn't change the fact it's a cyber vulnerability in every vehicle that does it. Cloud-based or not, it's still an OTA access point. If it means I stay out of the new car market, that's perfectly fine with me. Not interested in a third party having OTA access to my vehicle. Far too many nefarious possibilities. Or this one? Or perhaps this one?
     
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  11. OklahomaGator

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    My Tesla gets automatic updates on software whenever they are issued. I will get a message that it will happen in the morning at 3 am. Or I can schedule when I went it. So it is updated sitting home in the garage.
     
  12. vaxcardinal

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    I've only ever had Toyota products. I usually keep them until they become a hassle...usually getting over 250k miles on them.
     
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  13. demosthenes

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    Yes, it’s possible to have nefarious actors, but that’s why manufacturers firewall systems, use phased roll outs, encryption, keep software development in-house, etc. Your example is the manufacturer altering its own source code. That can happen with your hardware approach.
     
  14. DesertGator

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    It's far less likely with a hardware approach because of the costs associated with an update.

    Two of the three examples I gave earlier were Tesla being sneaky with its source code. Something which becomes much more convenient to accomplish when updates are OTA. The other example is illustrating a found vulnerably at a hacking convention (something that wouldn't happen with a HW approach): https://cybersecuritynews.com/tesla-model-3-vcsec-vulnerability/
     
  15. vaxcardinal

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    Sorry if my Tesla is driving slow in the left lane with my turn signal on…it’s been doing that ever since I installed McAfee :D
     
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