Will Clayton be drafted in round 1?

Yay, a geek thread!!!

IMO, the basic difference between what your professor said and saw versus what actually transpired (or should I say IS transpiring) is that "law" that the chip maker dude proclaimed (and was prophetic) about the cycle of computer technology getting twice as fast and much smaller and using less power. I am reminded that the computers used on the Apollo missions were ridiculously limited and resource (including weight) demanding when compared to today. No one can comprehend what the human mind is capable of with WAY more power until it manifests.

I am also reminded of a line from some elite scientific dude in the latter part of the 1800s who said "too bad for those scientist types being born today, they won't have anything to do because everything to discover and collect as fact is over. WE'VE done it all already!" And lastly, I am reminded of a line from "someone" who once thought if there is a push to make trains even more powerful, we may "fly too close to the sun", because "the human body is not designed to exceed 30 mph and live."

Yeah, every generation and, um, "intelligences" seem to think they "have it all figured out" because they have proverbially "seen all there is to see." It is a VERY human trait. And if you had a chance to see them again, I am quite sure you would have "put them in their place", just as you tell them "I have seen the future and that is all there is." Or should I say, it is plausible you (and I) do this, because that is the way we are wired.

Okay, maybe this was more a philosophy thread than a geeky one. So, sue me! Or, if you want to "teach me a lesson", just find my box of punch cards and shuffle them while I am not looking. THAT will teach me to stop messing with the real geeks...

 

Oh, and IMHO, what we think of AI today is more close to a "smart frig" who can phone the repair company via its connection to the internet instead of failing outright and the owner losing all the food inside, instead of a thinking and feeling robot doing all the rudimentary things we humans are used to doing. It isn't aware...yet. But if it ever becomes aware, and can figure out a way to "eat" without the use of these limited handlers, watch out! Nature can take down power lines and therefore grids, but if they are attached to a "continual source"...

 

Based on what Google AI does with my searches I would say we don't have to worry about the singularity for a while.

 

You guessed wrong. Ace Bailey of Rutgers is the polarizer, according to the article.

FWIW, two of the sizzling prospects listed there are Bailey and his teammate Dylan Harper. Hotshot freshmen of the Big 10. The Gators' own Xaivian Lee put up 21 points, 11 assists, and 6 rebounds against them in Princeton's 83-82 win in December. Yeah. Xaivian can play the game of basketball.

 

[QUOTE="RD_gator, post: 17838893, member:
One of the AI-models, Grok AI, predicted that Walter Clayton will go to Orlando! Is that like the Grog House on Univ. Avenue? Have some beer on the house, lol.
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"Grok" is the Martian word invented by Robert Heinlein for Stranger in a Strange Land. It means a sort of intuitive, sympathetic, and empathetic communication between beings. Dr. Evil, I mean Elon Musk, appropriated it for his AI product. He's a dick.

 

I. Would. Love.

 

I live in Orlando. The Magic don't have a commitment to winning big, just to winning enough to make a profit. They hire a coach, the Front Office clips his wings, and then fires him after two or three seasons.

 

Trust me. I've been a fan since Nick Anderson was drafted. I sadly know all about it.

 

They lost their chance in 2009

 

I am honestly tempering my expectations on Walter going to the Magic, whether it be that he is drafted before, or Orlando just does the illogical thing as expected.

The east is completely wide open. Tatum, Haliburton, Lillard are all out for the year. New York is a mess. Cleveland is a big phony and a young scrappy Orlando team took them to 7 games a year ago.

Philly is perpetually injured. Miami doesn't have the horses.

I am unsure where Giannis will end up. There is a non-zero chance that LeBron comes home to Cleveland as his final act as a free agent though. A young and ascending Detroit team is intriguing from a competitive standpoint.

 

New projection from ESPN 2 days before the draft:

20. Miami Heat (via Golden State)
Walter Clayton Jr., PG, Florida
Senior | TS%: 61.1

Height without shoes: 6-2 | Weight: 199
Standing reach: 8-1½ | Wingspan: 6-4

Clayton has showcased his dynamic shotmaking in workouts and worked his way up boards in a first round that has shaped up somewhat light on point guard options. He has fans in front offices selecting higher than this, and he appears to be well-positioned to potentially land inside the top 20. His explosiveness and ability to create his own shot are strong calling cards that should give him a pathway to being a useful bench scorer, at worst.

Miami is perennially among the hardest teams for rival organizations, as well as player agents, to get a read on, with a tight-lipped approach to how they conduct their predraft process. Considering the Heat's need for a proper point guard and the way Clayton seems to fit their mold, this fit makes sense on paper. -- Woo

 

Last year, 22 of 58 that were drafted were traded to other teams. Wouldn't surprise me if both Clayton and Martin end up with different teams that drafted them.

2024 NBA Draft Results: Picks 1-58

 

I learned yesterday that some draft picks are not allowed to be traded, and why so many trades happen after the pick is selected is that there are gentlemen's agreements between teams to draft x player and trade after the selection is made.

 

This just in:

 

I can attest first hand that WCJ will be drafted in the first round. . . . .

Spoiler: Exclusively

in a NBN summer contest just for giggles.

 

Pulling for all three of our studs finding a way on an NBA roster. It would be kinda cool if Walter wound up with a Florida Franchise.

 

"Grok" is the Martian word invented by Robert Heinlein for Stranger in a Strange Land. It means a sort of intuitive, sympathetic, and empathetic communication between beings. Dr. Evil, I mean Elon Musk, appropriated it for his AI product. He's a dick.[/QUOTE]

Share Water bro.

 

I'll be honest, NBA Summer League is usually like the "whatever it's background noise" during this doldrum time period but I probably will tune in with intention when Walt gets minutes on the floor

 

In Clayton, wherever he gets picked is likely not high enough (unless he is top 10 or 12). Golden said the same - he is a winner and a GM who passes on him at 14 ish is likely to regret that.

On AI, technology waves come slow and then crash overwhelmingly. The Wright bros flew 800 feet in 1903 (and the local paper didn’t cover it - the flight was a meaningless novelty to many). Airplanes didn’t commercially connect the world for 60 years. Semiconductors were invented history prior to 1950 and changed the world 40 years later. Software became a tool in 1990 and now there is no business and few humans that don’t rely on it daily.

My prediction is 20 years for AI - so 2035-40. The point where the wave crashes and folks wonder what it was like before. The ‘singularity’ - not an AI question and much fury out (if even rational). True intuitive reasoning- tough. But there will be no truck or taxi drivers, far fewer accountants/attorneys, etc. what our social contract becomes….? And the question of sentient AI is real.