Study shows MJ use can result in more heart atracks

You have a really hard time with nuance. Quote me where I claimed stop studying the effects of usage. I'll wait

 

There is a trend that people are quitting drinking and only using MJ.
I think this new study could be interesting and useful to some who are all in on the weed.

 

Show me where you showed even an ounce of interest in the new study.
Your post came across like someone rolling their eyes.

 

The article isn’t all about excessive use though.
It’s more about people using who have cardiovascular issues or history.

 

I'll agree to that. No problem at all with accepting potential problems with that kind of usage

 

Its not the studies, its just how profit-driven media tends to cover their findings

 

Nah my issue is with the general resistance from government and old world thinking that Marijuana is anything worse than other vices we accept in society. I probably wouldnt bring up alcohol as a comparison but the idea we allow restaurants and bars to sell single serving alcoholic beverages as if people dont drive to and from establishes that serve them irks me to no end. I drink alcohol and cannot use Marijuana at all due to my job but im not against its use for medicinal purposes.

Edit: i also see the effects of alcohol in a daily basis either acutely (DUI, car crashes, domestic battery issues, etc) or long term with cirrhosis, failure to thrive, non functioning alcoholics, homeless etc.

 

Tit for tat all day long, but when it comes to the collateral damages of societal harm and destroyed families, alcohol leaves marijuana in the dust.

 

I don’t know why anyone would expect different. Inhaling any particulates into the lungs ain’t natural. It’s matter of degrees, how frequently one does it, what method of delivery, probably random genetic stuff that make some more susceptible than others. Guess what, breathing bad air over a lifetime also increases cardiovascular issues - which is why we monitor and try to clean up air pollution.

Air Pollution and Cardiovascular Disease Basics | US EPA

I’ve always thought MJ should be treated like cigarettes. Tax sales to cover “societal costs” or whatever. Ban sales to minors. Ban it from most public places. Criminalize driving under the influence. Otherwise if people are doing it in their own homes or private venues and not bothering anyone it’s not really the govts business imo. Big guv insanity for anyone to be jailed for “possession”.

 

Cardio says no weed for afib. Had to cut down on beer, too.

 

Alcohol has brought my family closer than anything else.
Without it, we’d all be done.

 

Is that because it is VASTLY more prevalent in its use and abuse?

 

Thank you. This study commits one of the cardinal sins of health science reporting. It reports the sensational relative risk increases without providing the absolute risk increases.

A 29% higher risk of heart attack. Does that mean going from a 1 in 10 chance to a 1.29 in 10 chance of a heart attack, or does it mean going from 1 to 1.29 in a thousand, or even a million? All are 29% increases in risk, but obviously one is worrisome and the other is trivial.

 

Guess we all should have been more wary of a CNN article.

 

Believe in the science.

 

This is one of the areas where I 100% agree that mainstream media is biased. Regardless of political leanings, almost all sources are biased towards sensationalism. Bigger, hotter, wilder stories and takes get more attention, i.e. $$$.

 

I imagine so but moreso because the effects of intoxication are much more acute. Decision making, inhibitions are acutely and intensely affected and so the results are as well. Fights, promiscuity, accidents, life altering events happen much more frequently regardless of how prevalent the usage is in my opinion. Alcohol is also the biggest gateway drug there is.

 

I think we should all accept that on a very basic level, vices are not good for you. Mind altering substances are very likely to have a detrimental impact.

I haven’t touched pot since 1986 (sophomore in college). But I drink (primarily red wine). And I know that it’s not good for me, even though the lobbies promote its purported health benefits. And while I know it’s not good for me, I like it.

My own view is that society should treat marijuana similarly as it does cigarettes and alcohol—tax it like crazy, ban sales and use by minors, ban public smoking (no reason why I should have to take a hit of your blunt that you just discharged in the public air), ban all forms of inebriated driving, and otherwise let adults make adult decisions.

 

I dont think the science is wrong though. At least as long as they dont make any definitive conclusions yet depending on their level of research. As stated before, the coverage of said risk factors is disproportionate because we accept other behaviors risk factors socially but I dont doubt that Marijuana especially abused or consuming it by smoking is harmful.