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2 Minnesota lawmakers both shot in separate home invasions.

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by tilly, Jun 14, 2025 at 9:50 AM.

  1. gator_fever

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  2. GatorRade

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    Right here
    Tragic. And also horrifying that the political virus can so thoroughly commandeer the mind and body of a man.
     
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  4. antny1

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    I just told someone the other day that the day will come where a mass shooter changes into a cop outfit and takes out more people in a secondary attack. There is no end to the evolution of people who want to cause harm. Not exactly the same but the idea is now planted for copycats to germinate.
     
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    Not a fan of Waltz but putting any blame on him seems stupid to me. Even though the guy looks like a weirdo in the pictures on here I am sure Waltz never thought he would kill some one. As far as I am concerned not matter Rep. or Dem. these people are nut jobs that if found guilty should get the death penalty and not 20 years later. There is no room for any of this in our country no matter what political beliefs they have. Is it possible he did it to ramp up more protest around the country?
     
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  8. gator_fever

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    I wonder if the guy was starting to have money issues. It appears that company of his that did work in the Congo ran out of funding about the time a lot of USAID funding was recently cut off there. He was asking around about finding a new job. Sometimes if people are used to having decent money and that dries up especially at his age they get suicidal. Might be what triggered him to go off the deep end.
     
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    Wow, 2 legislators and their wives shot and from the get go on this site it's all political speculation. How about waiting for facts. She was a rising star in the Dem party and some here are putting this on Waltz?

    This forum gets worse every day. I would say Do Better, but I know that's not happening .
     
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  10. g8orbill

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    I do not think anyone is actually blaming Walz- just making the point the shooter was a liberal.
     
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  11. ridgetop

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    Whoa! Wait a second! Now that the shooter is likely left leaning we get
    Guy was a whacko
    Let’s wait for the facts
    Must be some serious other issues at play..
    And while I agree with all of those things I’ve seen many many left leaning posters decrying the right when they lost the exact same thing. Just a few weeks ago we had a whole thread stating that mental
    Illness is very seldom the issue. We have had many many threads with political leanings being a tracked after mass shootings. Why NOW do we all of sudden need to be patient and wait for all the facts. Why now is his mental state a viable explanation? Again… I think those things should always be in place and have said so on many threads but find it…. Hypocritical… that right now the SOME on the left want exactly what they decried from the right.
     
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    You should look at the posts on the Fox News Facebook page, makes this place tame in comparison.
    Instead of human decency, it’s disgusting.
     
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    This place is basically a WalMart 4chan now. Too bad
     
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  14. ridgetop

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    I have no doubts about that. We have devolved into tribal warfare. More important to score points for our team than it is to have modicum of common decency.
     
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    I don't think people were arguing that mental health was "very seldom the issue." The point on the whole use of the words "mental health" in regards to shootings is that it tends to be a deflection, as reflected in the fact that the term itself is so broad such as to make it useless as an actionable solution and specifics beyond those words are rarely applied. When asked for specifics, the people saying the term "mental health" often retreat to either their more comfortable topics ("get these people some Christianity!" to "Bill Gates is programming people to do this" depending on their personal level of crazy) or shrug their shoulders. In fact, many of the people who state "mental health" as a deflection are those that will dismiss mental health treatment in other contexts or look down on those receiving such treatment or needing such treatment.

    BTW, people should be cautious about the political stuff, as the list in the car was apparently basically a list of Pro-Choice politicians and abortion providers.
     
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    Thank you for enlightening us.
     
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    When the manifesto is released, illegal immigration, undocumented immigrants to this far left agitated and inspired jerk, will be front and center. I think this guy was pissed off because Minnesota chose to end free health care for illegal aliens rather than have to shut down the Minnesota government come July 1. This was a huge and nasty deal in Minnesota last Monday.

    Even though the Minnesota Senate voted 37-30 giving shade for senators to vote no, somehow Hoffman was picked up as someone that along with Hautman had to go as examples, maybe it was just being so close and easy to target in their residences. I'll wager the other dems on the list will turn out to be those that pushed the final senate vote to a yes vote of 37-30.

    Keeping score of leftist dangerous rhetoric inspired violence.

    Anti-Israel/antisemitic violence:

    Pushing and supporting intifada of Israel as a nation, see it on campus all the time.

    Tried to murder and burn down governor's mansion and kill Governor Shapiro and his family.

    Young Jewish couple assassinated outside of a Jewish Museum in Washington DC.

    Tim Walz just came out with his view that the CCP is a better arbiter to guide Israel/Iran than the US. CCP Tim. (shaking head)

    Illegal Immigration Support:

    Riots all over the country attacking ICE, police, sheriffs. Add national guard and marines and you have LA where violent rhetoric by the left is an everyday thing. There is no end in sight for these riots, not to be confused with peaceful protests which they are not.

    To the left, ICE enforcing federal immigration laws makes them the Gestapo as expertly stated by Tampon Tim and all of the democrats in Washington minus John Fetterman.

    President Trump is a king is what the left espouses. Except for left wing murder today, that's all we have heard this weekend.

    It's perfectly fine to celebrate with gay pride parades, but you had best not show your support for and celebrate the US Army on their 250th year of founding. God help us in 2026 when the US will celebrate 250 years of existence.

    Capitalism vs. Communism:

    Murdered an insurance executive because he was a big business capitalist. Apparently, the left wants to legalize murder. They don't won't the murderer in jail let alone being, tried, convicted, and sent to his deserved death punishment.

    The Democratic Party is DEAD. Voters will make it official in 2026 and 2028.
     
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    And just how do you think too hot would react if this guy just happened to have worked for Trump or anybody on the right in the past???????
     
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    The American left has shown itself to be far more violent than the American right. One could say crazy people do crazy stuff?

    In this situation, I believe there was much more going on in this guy’s life that pushed him over the edge …. and he somehow rationalized shooting these victims.

     
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    Some here didn’t quite get it…