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Air India 787 Crashes

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by G8trGr8t, Jun 12, 2025 at 5:54 AM.

  1. ATLGATORFAN

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    Guess anything is possible but most modern airports have underground fuel lines that are fed from a larger fuel depot. It would be difficult to push bad fuel to one specific plane. There would have been a bunch of failures.
     
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  3. chemgator

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    An airline pilot speculates that the crash may have been due to the co-pilot grabbing the wrong handle and raising flaps instead of raising the landing gear.

    Co-pilot error suspected in new Air India crash theory

     
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  4. demosthenes

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    My brother is a commercial pilot and he said all flight recorders don’t have a backup power source so if that was a cause in this crash it’s not a guarantee the recorders would be recording the whole time. He doesn’t know about the 787 but this happened in the recent South Korea 737 crash.
     
  5. chemgator

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    An identical 787 for American Airlines had to abort four flights with emergency landings because of a problem with the flaps.

    Boeing 787 identical to crash jet made four emergency landings in a month

     
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  6. TheGator

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    This guy suggests pilot error.

     
  7. demosthenes

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    My brother doesn’t buy it and says the guy in the video is ignoring other evidence. He also cited the the first comment the video from a former 787 pilot:

    “Hi I’m an ex 787 captain, in this phase of flight due to the flight envelope protection and auto gap protection, the system doesn’t allow you to retract flaps even accidentally .”​
     
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  8. RealGatorFan

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    He's changed his mind now that he has the original video that the world has not been viewing. The video we've seen has been a video of a video so we didn't get to see or hear what actually happened. After he was able to view that video, he has changed his mind that it was the deploying of the RAT and that it was dual engine failure:

     
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  9. RealGatorFan

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    I also expect Boeing's stock to crash over the next week or 2 as the world starts to understand that the crash was caused by the RAT deploying and not pilot error. That also might ground all 787s worldwide until a cause can be found.
     
  10. TheGator

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    I don’t think these planes were properly maintained. Sounds like there was electrical problems on this same plane on its prior flight. Yet this plane was allowed to take off again. Why is that?

    https://youtube.com/shorts/pPP1dJPMOE4?si=mfO0SevI-Dz5o6w-
     
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  11. ncargat1

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    I don't understand that. The RAT deploying is an "effect" and not a "cause". There are many reasons that the aircraft could have lost power, that may or may not be a Boeing design flaw.

    Videos taken by passengers on the inbound flight from Delhi showed there were numerous electrical system issues with that jet, including the air conditioning not working correctly.
     
  12. TheGator

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    Yes. Just posted a video above. If true, did maintenance inspect the plane before takeoff? Did the pilots go through their checklist and would this come up?
     
  13. vaxcardinal

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    That’s a ridiculous speculation