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UF presidential search is getting underway (U Michigan prez is the sole candidate) update- merged

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by oragator1, Oct 29, 2024.

  1. gator_lawyer

    gator_lawyer VIP Member

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    We're living through a second Gilded Age and Redemption. Only way this changes for the better in the short term is if a bunch of people remove their heads from their asses and start caring about their neighbors, community, and country again.
     
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  2. bigDgator

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    I am speaking about following the law, which the left seems to do only when it aligns with their principles. This guy pushed DEI at his last place, so he has a history, and I am not going to ignore it. So I don't prefer him. But, if he were passed through by the board I would definitely tolerate him.
     
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  3. bigDgator

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    Amen!!
     
  4. mdgator05

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    So the evidence that he wouldn't follow the law is that he followed the law, which contradicted Florida law, at his last institution? The only law that he appears to have even arguably violated is the First Amendment by restricting Pro Palestinian and Pro Labor protests, but UF did the same thing to cheers from those same politicians.
     
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  5. bigDgator

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    Once again, he followed the law when it aligned with his principles. I keep having to repeat myself for some reason.
     
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  6. mdgator05

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    That seems like a pretty convoluted argument. He is saying that his principles align with Florida's. That seems to be supported by him agreeing to leave his position as President of a higher ranked university (essentially, a lateral if not slight step back in job prestige) to go to Florida. He has made a ton of statements that he doesn't support DEI in the last few months (I oppose his position in many of those statements). But all of these are lies and what he really believes is what happened at Michigan. And this only happened because that is what he really believes, not because he followed the law and did something that he didn't support...

    That is a very convoluted argument that seems to distinctly violate Occam's Razor.
     
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  7. Gatorrick22

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    Fox Business just talked about The University of Florida avoiding a woke joke DEI clown in Santa... love Fox Business. Dagen McDowell was fired up and happy for the Gators and the people of Florida. :D:)
     
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  8. GatorRade

    GatorRade Rad Scientist

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    Right here
    If Rufo is knowingly labeling non-woke people as “woke” just to ruin their lives, I think most would agree that it’s evil. But what if Rufo honestly believes that these people are woke and woke is evil? Then it becomes our evil vs their evil.

    An argument that should land regardless of political leaning is that our systems have simply not worked like this in decades or maybe ever. Perhaps no Florida governor has ever tried to put his hands on so many of social, legal, and governmental levers. So regardless of whether one believes woke is a problem, they should see this concentration of authority as one. Now we may have to live in this dammed world where every university professor has to pass an ideology test administered by whomever happens to be in office at that moment.
     
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  9. coleg

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    Crap sources provide crap information.
     
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  10. wgbgator

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    This is definitely the first time a vote like this has failed at the school. That alone is pretty scandalous. But DeSantis is probably the first governor in generations that has been intent on politicizing nearly anything the governor has discretion to appoint or influence, down to Disney's local governing body. Maybe that will the norm now. And we are going on 30 years of Republican governance in this state.
     
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  11. SotaGator

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    Because you don't make sense. By your logic, most Republicans, Maga people and $Trump are unqualified.
     
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  12. gator_lawyer

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    I wish you luck landing that argument. A good percentage of Americans seem very comfortable with the centralization of authority and the imposition of tests of ideological purity on government employees, including university professors.
     
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  13. wgbgator

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    I think its also important to understand this is not a new development in this country, not that it should give anyone false comfort. I mean, at one time you had to say you werent a communist just to make movies lol.
     
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  14. vaxcardinal

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    well except for the florida hire, they all have 2 syllables in their first name.
     
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    The only person worth watching on Fox Business is Liz Claman, and you can do that with it on mute.
     
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  16. shelbygt350

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    He hung himself with his beta boy woke BS answers. I cant remember. I dont know. I'm only an immunologist. I'm changed my mind.

    He comes across as one of those "elite academic" pinheads who embrace (1) Diversity, but not diversity of ideas, (2) Equity (of outcome), but not Merit, and (3) Inclusion, but not inclusion of conservatives, patriots, Christians, and Orthodox Jews.

    There are videos of him saying we all have inner racism. Huh? All of us? And we must seek it in our heart? I guess I am a racist against stupid people in positions of influence pushing stupid ideas.
    No one should be a leader of a university who cant recall anything he said at virtually anytime.

    Dr Santa Oh No can put on his one black glove, get on his sleigh and ride back up to Meat Chicken land and sip a white wine over an avocado toast brunch while speaking nuance to his peers of non-binary, pan sexual, furry identifying folks.

    Hire me as UF Pres. I can remember what I told girls back in the 70s and 80s. I can remember what I wrote in the high school student newspaper!!!!!!
     
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  17. wgbgator

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    You will be just about as qualified as the next candidate, and I assume the stuff you said back then will probably give you an edge with these yahoos.
     
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  18. FloridaGator80

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    Well, to some, DeSantis looked better than the steaming pile before him: a man whose company committed the biggest Medicare fraud in history; took the Fifth dozens of times in depositions; and then used his 9-figure golden parachute to buy the governor's office. He's now one of our U.S. Senators. However, the same machine that propped up Rick, propped up DeSantis, too. They all continue to reap the (financial) rewards.
     
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  19. shelbygt350

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    Thanks. I'll take that $3.0 M job for a couple of years. First order of business: get a real AD. Next, HBC search (under the radar). Third, get the UAA out of the way.

    Yahoos? Are those the same folks that dont like DEI? Then I'm a Proud Yahoo. Yahoos built this country not elite nuance academia who cant remember anything.
     
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  20. mdgator05

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    You can make a pretty serious case that literally none of the 9 largest companies in the country would exist without "elite nuance academia." Also, strange how many of those "elite nuance academia" places were founded by founding fathers themselves...

    America is literally a country of ideas. So the idea people are actually pretty important.
     
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