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4 for Friday. Judges rule POTUS doing more illegal stuff

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by G8trGr8t, Feb 25, 2025.

  1. gator_jo

    gator_jo GC Hall of Fame

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    Is this gentleman overlooking the fact that, in the eyes of the Trump Administration, he is quite different from some other people. Such as some very deserving asylum seekers who we've been hearing about.

    I'm sure that some resident Trump voters can jump in and explain all that. And why this gentleman deserved to be incarcerated without a trial.

    Any Trumpy Constitution abusers lovers want to help us out on this?
     
  2. ETGator

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    Everyone who has accused and bashed Bill owes him just as public an apology. I changed the title.

    Moderation decisions will no longer be called out on the forum.

    Way too much angst and anguish over a partial thread change.
     
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  3. citygator

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  4. BossaGator

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    Apologies to Bill for assuming he changed the thread title. My point remains as to whoever did. Don’t think I want to hang around a place where mods are encouraged to abuse the trust of the members by arbitrarily altering the content of posts.
     
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  5. vegasfox

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  6. OklahomaGator

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    Good news but in the wrong thread
     
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  7. vegasfox

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    Sorry, didn't want to start a new thread. (Gregory Copley called for bringing Iran into Western civilization in his 2006 book Art of Victory and I posted his thoughts here around that time).
     
  8. BLING

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    Lolwut. Iran was basically a British puppet state for decades until the Iranian Revolution turned them towards Islamist fundamentalist rule.

    You saying you were strongly in favor of Obama’s nuclear deal w/them? The softening of relations? Somehow I doubt that.
     
  9. citygator

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    Live arguments on Birthright citizenship and nationwide injunctions.

    This is about as an authoritarian move as there is. Basically Trump wants to violate everyone’s rights whenever he wants and then force victims to take him to court for each person whose right he violates.

    America isn’t built for leaders using bad faith. It’s built on self restraint. There is none in DC currently.

    Supreme Court Hears Case on Birthright Citizenship and Judicial Power: Live Updates
     
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  10. GatorRade

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    Right here
    I did not view the offending title change, and clearly GC is a private entity which should be free to establish its own criteria for conduct. GC has moderated tone for a long time, and I think this decisions has improved the user experience overall.

    I would just add as a general note that I think it would be extremely regrettable for GC to enact any moderation that is viewpoint-based. Removing ad hominem attacks and untrustworthy links are actions that can be applied equally to all sides. However, mandating context only when claims are of a particular perspective would be something else entirely. Just my .02c, not that anyone asked for it.
     
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  11. vegasfox

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    I never said I supported Obama's nuclear deal but it wasn't as bad as some made it out to be. Starting a war with Iran on behalf of Israel was always a loser move.

    Australian Greg Copley was advising the Shah when he was 33 years old. My dad's friend Stefan Possony co-founded the International Strategic Studies Assn (ISSA) with Copley. in 1972. Possony was called the greatest strategic thinker in the West by some until his health declined. He co-wrote the Strategy of %echnology in 1973 which Reagan employed to bring down the USSR. It's only natural that I would listen to Copley. I've spoken with him and his wife Pamela. I listen to him on the John Bachelor Show most Tuesday nights. Copley has been called the greatest grand strategist in the West and I read his books. When he speaks I listen. In 2005-2006 Copley called for a grand strategy of integrating Iran into Western civilization. The days of the clerics are obviously numbered so the smart move is to find an exit strategy for them.

    Many times I've posted that the Russian economy should be integrated into the Western European economy as Reagan and Thatcher wanted. Did it make sense to force Russia to align with China?

    I was against deposing Assad in Syria and Gaddafi in Libya. I don't consider Israel to be much of an ally for the US.

    Bottom line for a long time it has made sense made sense to befriend some of the people out country considers enemies
     
  12. VAg8r1

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    The term "Trumpy Constitution lover" is an oxymoron similar to the name and claim of Trump's movement which calls itself "Make America Great Again" when its Dear Leader supports policies that do the opposite.
     
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  13. BLING

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    I’m not sure how you integrate a religiously fundamentalist country whose mullah rulers chant “Death to Israel” and “Death to America”. That’s a bridge too far unless they change their govt to be more moderate.

    The nuclear deal still was worth trying out. Kind of funny here we are 10 years later and now we’re going for nuclear deal 2.0. Think Oct 7 happens if we’d stuck with the original deal? I figured Iran would probably violate it. But we’ll never know.
     
  14. vegasfox

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    Iran is probably more secular than fundamentalist. According to an online survey of 40,000 Iranians a few years ago, 32% identify as shia, 5% as sunni, 3% as sufi. Only 37% believe in an afterlife.

    "90%, described themselves as hailing from believing or practising religious families. Yet 47% reported losing their religion in their lifetime, and 6% said they changed from one religious orientation to another."
    Iran’s secular shift: new survey reveals huge changes in religious beliefs

    The people want the clerics to leave Iran. As I said previously we need to give the clerics a way to exit the country
     
  15. G8trGr8t

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    four for Friday

    how many times does one has to be judged to have broken the law before it has consequences?

    Judge warns of Trump’s ‘pernicious’ law firm targeting in ruling against it

    The streak of courtroom wins against President Donald Trump’s executive orders targeting disfavored law firms doesn’t seem to be ending anytime soon. A clue in the latest ruling Friday came right at the beginning, when U.S. District Judge John Bates started this way:

    In our constitutional order, few stars are as fixed as the principle that no official “can prescribe what shall be orthodox in politics.” W. Va. State Bd. of Educ. v. Barnette, 319 U.S. 624, 642 (1943). And in our constitutional order, few actors are as central to fixing that star as lawyers.

    Fully blocking Trump’s order against the firm Jenner & Block, the George W. Bush appointee noted that the order in this case is one of several targeting firms that “did not bow to the current presidential administration’s political orthodoxy.” The judge said the order went after the firm “because of the causes Jenner champions, the clients Jenner represents, and a lawyer Jenner once employed.”

    Judge orders the Trump administration to return a Guatemalan man to the U.S. : NPR

    A federal judge ordered the Trump administration late Friday to facilitate the return of a Guatemalan man it deported to Mexico in spite of his fears of being harmed there.

    The man, who is gay, was protected from being returned to his home country under a U.S. immigration judge's order at the time. But the U.S. put him on a bus and sent him to Mexico instead, a removal that U.S. District Judge Brian Murphy found likely "lacked any semblance of due process."

    The man, who is gay, was protected from being returned to his home country under a U.S. immigration judge's order at the time. But the U.S. put him on a bus and sent him to Mexico instead, a removal that U.S. District Judge Brian Murphy found likely "lacked any semblance of due process."

    Judge halts Trump's plans to slash government : NPR

    A federal judge in San Francisco has indefinitely paused President Trump's sweeping overhaul of the federal government.

    U.S. District Judge Susan Illston issued the preliminary injunction late Thursday, nearly two weeks after temporarily halting Trump's Feb. 11 executive order directing agencies to shut down offices and lay off thousands of people.

    Judge blocks Trump administration from barring foreign students at Harvard | EdSource

    US judge blocks Trump's plan to dismantle Education Department | Reuters
     
  16. l_boy

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    I have not seen any evidence that there are any penalties for repeated illegal executive orders and actions. Worst case the courts overturn it.
     
  17. gator_jo

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    ^^ Yeah, it's weird. The mission of the administration of the felon Trump is clearly to break the law as much as possible. When they're stopped, that's just a small amount less illegal stuff they'll do.

    It's like if one of us could go rob stores repeatedly. They'd usually catch us and make us stop, but not always.

    Who would have expected this result from electing a felon?
     
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