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Trump’s ‘big, beautiful bill’ will lead to Medicare cuts: CBO

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  1. reboundgtr

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    It does to the hangwringers and defenders of the faith
     
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  2. reboundgtr

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    It's also interesting how people have become so interested in and experts in the deficit/debt/owe a lot of money situation of late. Funny enough, they only harangue one set of politicians about the issue.
     
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  3. mdgator05

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    Yeah, remember when Republicans harangued Biden about the debt before they took power and passed a bill that is projected to add trillions to the debt from the level left to them by Biden?
     
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  4. BLING

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    One party used to claim to be fiscally conservative. Arguably the dems are now more fiscally conservative, even if we know they are far from it. The GOP has gone full anti-trade full big guv crazy.
     
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  5. gtr2x

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    It was a rhetorical question obviously.
    Point being, if it passes musk will get a sweet payback for his support of trump. Now who could have predicted that. :rolleyes:
     
  6. vaxcardinal

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    Do you believe the government should solicit from the leading provider of space launch capabilities? Or should they bypass them?
     
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  7. dynogator

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    I think a leading recipient of federal contracts shouldn't have involved themselves in the government like Elon did. I think MAGA has completely blocked the words "conflict of interest," from their brains.
     
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    I do every time so they can decide if they want to report the income themselves. And it “usually” all goes to my server who I’m tipping not the staff.
     
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  10. G8trGr8t

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    Seems like just yesterday
     
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  11. VAg8r1

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    I have no problem with the government soliciting input from Musk on subjects related to his areas of expertise. He shouldn't have carte blanche to do incalculable damage to multiple programs with which he has very little knowledge including the imposition of changes affecting the well being of hundreds of millions of Americans. You think Musk would be OK with government bureaucrats with little technical knowledge making across the board cuts at Space X or Tesla in the name of improving efficiency?
     
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  12. gtr2x

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    Given our huge budget deficit I don't think we should be spending almost 200 Billion dollars on this. Period.
    So much for fiscal conservatism, eh.
     
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  13. reboundgtr

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    Reading is fundamental, yeah I remember the hang wringing about it. There’s only input from the left, Democrats left the building a long time ago, when it’s the other side. Much like the inverse.
     
  14. reboundgtr

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    Finding ineffectiveness that wastes money? Fraud? Free give always? Yet people seem to think only DC insiders can root out corruption?When the prosecutions start, than I’ll be satisfied with the efforts. Until than it’s just a showy intro.
     
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  15. duggers_dad

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    Ah well, people on Medicare are already going bankrupt due to medical expenses.

    Maybe there’s a deeper problem.
     
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  16. ncargat1

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    Since there is so little proof Apartheid Elon did any of that, I am not sure why you people keep clinging to his lies? He went from easily cutting $2T to immediately walking it back to $1T to then realizing that was total fiction even his zombies might discover so they changed the target to $175B. Now, the New York Times comes along and systematically investigates every singe bogus claim made by DOPE, which is what DOGE should be re-branded as, and low and behold, over 50% of the claims were complete fabrications or gross misrepresentation of reality. That leave DOPEY DOGE cutting less than $75B, most of which came not from waste, fraud or abuse, but from federal protection agencies that were.......all filing massive lawsuits against Apartheid Elon. So, we needlessly destroy the NLRB, EPA, OHSHA, NIH, CDC and every person who was an Inspector General who would flag the fraud and what have we actually saved? Not to mention, publicly expose the personal financial data of every single American to the Chinese and Russian business partners for rainy day use. By the time we get done paying Big Balls and the others, plus the Federal Government spending endlessly just to get its arse handed to it time and time again in Federal court, this typical MAGA low character grifter has actually cost us $Millions if not $Billions all to free his companies from countless lawsuits.

    Bravo MAGA, just freaking BRAVO.
     
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  17. chemgator

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    Maybe the government should avoid conflicts of interest and not drag corporate executives into government and give them the power to fire people and re-arrange government. You know, the whole "ethics" thing?
     
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  18. chemgator

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    Are you channeling Donald Trump-level word salad, or were you drinking when you wrote this?
     
  19. chemgator

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    What qualifications does the leader of a space launch company have that makes him an expert in government operations? Is a new rocket design going to help with grandma's lower back pain? Is a new rocket fuel going to give grandpa something to eat this week? Is new rocket control software going to keep people alive after a tornado or hurricane?
     
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  20. ncargat1

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    Well, he did nearly bankrupt both Tesla and Space-X and needed government bail-outs. So, much like Trump, he does have experience running organizations into the ground and grifting enough to get other people to pay for them. So, he really does sound like every Republican politician who has ever graced the DC corridor.