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FDA to require clinical trials on Covid booster for healthy people

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by g8orbill, May 20, 2025 at 4:09 PM.

  1. g8orbill

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  2. wgbgator

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    Hmm who was the president who "rushed things" last time, no way he'd get reelected
     
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  3. AzCatFan

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    The vaccine underwent three trial phases, which is required for all new drugs. The final phase included 43,548 participants. How was that rushed?

    The only thing that was rushed was the emergency use of the vaccine. Most drugs require a full six months before being accepted for market. And that was the same with the vaccine, as EU was accepted in January, and full acceptance in June. The vaccine wasn't rushed at all.
     
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  4. WC53

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    Top officials for the Food and Drug Administration laid out new requirements for access to yearly COVID shots, saying they'd continue to use a streamlined approach that would continue offering them to adults 65 and older as well as children and younger adults with at least one health problem that puts them at higher risk.
     
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    The clown that claimed to have a brain worm that's in charge should probably have new clinical trials on tetanus shot efficacy as well.... I bet it has been a while since they were done. SMH
     
  6. channingcrowderhungry

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    Operation Warp Speed was one of the biggest successes of the previous Trump admin. Amazing they dislike it.
     
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  7. citygator

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    Trump's clot shot is finally getting tested? I wonder why he rolled out something so dangerous?

    Remarks by President Trump at the Operation Warp Speed Vaccine Summit – The White House

    "We’re here to discuss a monumental national achievement. From the instant the coronavirus invaded our shores, we raced into action to develop a safe and effective vaccine at breakneck speed. It would normally take five years, six years, seven years, or even more. In order to achieve this goal, we harnessed the full power of government, the genius of American scientists, and the might of American industry to save millions and millions of lives all over the world. We’re just days away from authorization from the FDA, and we’re pushing them hard, at which point we will immediately begin mass distribution.

    Before Operation Warp Speed, the typical timeframe for development and approval, as you know, could be infinity. And we were very, very happy that we were able to get things done at a level that nobody has ever seen before. The gold standard vaccine has been done in less than nine months.

    On behalf of the entire nation, I want to thank everyone here today who has been involved in this extraordinary American initiative. I also want to recognize members of my administration who have worked tirelessly in this effort:"
     
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  8. gator_jo

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    Kooky people just need something to be angry about.

    It's weird, you'd think they'd be all happy with that J6 rioter getting paid out and everything....
     
  9. tampajack1

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    Don’t forget that Trump saved over 40 million lives by keeping a Chinese plane from landing in the US.
     
  10. VAg8r1

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    Perhaps the only time Trump was booed by his own supporters was when he urged them to take vax at a MAGA rally. Apparently they had been so indoctrinated against the vax by the right-wing media that they even booed their own Dear Leader. Interestingly that was the first and last time that Trump promoted the Covid vaccine.
     
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  11. tilly

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    Is this thread from 2020?
     
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  12. duggers_dad

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    No scientific evidence for anything to vaccinate for and excess mortality was higher AFTER vaccine rollout than before.
     
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    Not this one but there is another thread on Covid that does date back to 2020. Interestingly, roughly 90% of the posts in that thread over the last several months are from a single poster, the guy who believes that viruses do not exist.
     
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    It’s 2020 forever, as far as I’m concerned, because crimes against humanity and historic mass-derangement.
     
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    It’s called the companies we gave billions to need to run trials to prove the drug is safe and effective.

    How anyone has an issue with this is propagandize to take the shot regardless of effect and safety or just does not care about basic medicine and science.
     
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    Trials were run. I linked previously the Phase III trial results with over 43,000 participants.
     
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    We are in 2025…
     
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  19. AzCatFan

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    How often does the CDC take a drug that is already on the market and take it back to trial phase? Never. You will see studies on drugs that have serious side effects in really low rates that were missed during the trial phase. For example, Phase III trials usually include no more than 50,000 participants, so if a serious side effect only happens in 1 in 100,000, it might have been missed in the trial.

    Do you or anyone have any evidence that something was missed in the trial and there are serious side effects being missed? The only one I can think of was the J&J vaccine and blood clots in women of birthing age. But that's not an issue here in the US, since the J&J vaccine was pulled completely from the shelves. Anything about Moderna or Pfizer that is concerning enough to warrant another trial?
     
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  20. QGator2414

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    We know plenty of issues with these shots. We know they did not protect as advertised. We know they do harm. So we absolutely need the drug companies to prove the drugs are needed. Especially knowing most people do not even need the shot.

    I get you do not care and are part of the less than 5% that will pump yourself and kids with the thing. But the FDA is doing the right thing. To protect people.
     
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