Pakistan India Heating Up

did someone get a message from Signal on this?

 

There is a US centric slant to this. India is likely the China trap door. If you believe India is the mysterious country that Trump, Bessent, and Lutnik are eluding to, it’s a major step toward decoupling from China. If the US can lean in on better US investment into India as a China replacement, you have an economic pressure from the US on Pakistan and India to cool tensions. This is maybe a BRICS wedge to split up the trade block and find better one-off deals. Pakistan has a vested interest in trying to destabilize a US-India deal.

 

Gonna side with India on this one.

OT: When is Trump going to declassify what Pakistan and Musharraf knew about Osama Bin Ladin?

 

https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/06/asia/india-pakistan-kashmir-conflict-hnk-intl

India said early Wednesday it had launched a military operation against Pakistan, hitting “terrorist infrastructure” in both Pakistan and Pakistan administered-Kashmir, in a major escalation of tensions between the two neighbors.

“These steps come in the wake of the barbaric Pahalgam terrorist attack in which 25 Indians and one Nepali citizen were murdered,” India’s Ministry of Defense said in a statement, referring to an attack last month tourists in India-administered Kashmir.

“Our actions have been focused, measured and non-escalatory in nature. No Pakistani military facilities have been targeted. India has demonstrated considerable restraint in selection of targets and method of execution,” the statement added.

 

‘Member that time people believed Trump when he said he’d never allow world powers to ever engage in War????

And now, directly under his watch, we have potential Armageddon.

So entertaining … like in a horror kind of way.

 

“We had no terrorist attacks at all during my four years.”

— Former president Donald Trump, during a Fox News town hall, Jan. 10


“I had no wars. I’m the only president in 72 years, I didn’t have any wars.”

 

I'm not worried about an India/Pakistan conflict, Marco Rubio is in charge. And even with him having 9 jobs, he still finds time to do the most important job...rounding up students for being critical of Israel and deporting them.

 

There are only a few countries with nuclear capabilities: US, Russia, China, UK, France, India, Israel, Pakistan and N Korea.

Pakistan got Nukes in 1998, India in 1974. Some foreign country must have helped Pakistan gain nukes so that there would be a balance of power.

 

Even a limited nuke exchange between them would not be a good thing. Fallout travels.

 

Thanks Trump! Last time these two mixed it up was in 2019 under.. yep, Trump. Weak Presidents with weak leadership lead to world squabbles.

Much of China production has moved to India over the last few years. Whoops. More supply chain disruption. Thanks Trump!

 

I was thinking the same thing. If this happened last year, it was because we "had a weak president and no one respects us".

 

If this was a case of a small country with whom we had some form of security partnership being attacked by a bigger country, then I would tend to agree, old friend. But India and Pakistan are basically peers with each other. We have a mixture of security and economic relations with both, and both countries have such relations with other great powers that we would rather they didn’t (China in the case of Pakistan, and Russia in the case of India). I’m ready to be convinced otherwise, but my initial read on this is I can’t lay the dead baby at President Trump’s doorstep for anything he did or failed to do.

 

The good news on that is, both sides are very aware of the implications of a nuclear exchange and are consequently going to proceed much more cautiously than they would have if neither side had the weapons. If this was still 1970, we might be seeing a full clash of armies by now.

 

I absolutely don't feel this is trumps fault, I was just poking fun at the people who thought any military action or accident during biden's term was due to other countries not respecting our military.

 

Well that is a rational response. But our President sure quickly blamed his predecessor (both times) for anything that happened anywhere in the world, including proclaiming in no uncertain terms that no significant country would wage war on another while he was President.