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Plane crash in DC plane and chopper in Potomac River (Sadly there were NO survivors)

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by Gator515151, Jan 29, 2025.

  1. ATLGATORFAN

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    Yes. It’s drilled into every pilot. Fixed and rotor. I’ve used plenty of times over the years. It can be calm when I can see someone new is getting behind such as “ok Jeff. I’m coming up on the controls now….. ok my controls and Jeff you have ATC “. Or in this case it would be. “ my controls”. in a clear, loud tone. And most will let go and sit back and then we debrief at the gate and nobody in the back knows any different
     
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  2. G8trGr8t

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    unreal..they letting hege fly again?

    Helicopter Caused 2 Planes to Abort Landings at Washington, DC Airport—FAA - Newsweek

    The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) has opened an investigation after two commercial flights aborted landings at Reagan Washington National Airport on Thursday due to a U.S. military Black Hawk helicopter en route to the Pentagon.

    Why It Matters
    After a deadly mid-air collision on January 29 between an American Airlines regional jet and a U.S. Army helicopter that killed 67 people, the FAA imposed permanent restrictions on non-essential helicopter operations near Reagan National Airport.

    What to Know
    On Friday, the FAA confirmed to Reuters that air traffic controllers instructed Delta Air Lines Flight 1671 from Orlando and Republic Airways Flight 5825 from Boston to execute "go-arounds" around 2:30 p.m. because a priority air transport helicopter was operating in the area.

    A Department of Defense official told Fox News Digital they are "aware of reports" about Friday's incident.
     
  3. vaxcardinal

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    No officials were on the helicopter. It was on a training mission
     
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  4. G8trGr8t

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    why even fly that route, let alone use it as a training route?
     
  5. vaxcardinal

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    Exactly. Military didnt give an explanation but said they will stop
     
  6. VAg8r1

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  7. vaxcardinal

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    Neither. There was an incident I believe on Friday involving a military helicopter. Duffy was pissed and said those VIPs need to take a taxi or uber. Then it was reported there were no VIPs, just a training exercise
     
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  9. G8tas

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    The skies were safer under Biden
     
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  10. slocala

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    Maybe Trump can watch season 2 of the Rehearsal and figure out how to improve aviation.
     
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  11. G8tas

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    Remember when we didn't have to worry about our commercial skies? Trump and DOGE have made the world less safe
     
  12. QGator2414

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    Google is not hard to use...

    "In the first four months of 2025, the NTSB has recorded fewer total plane crashes (282) and fatal plane crashes (51) compared to the same period in 2024 (334 total crashes and 57 fatal crashes). However, it's important to note that this data is based on information through April 12, 2025, and the year is still ongoing."
     
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  13. G8tas

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    Now do commercial flights
     
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  14. QGator2414

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    There have been seven commercial accidents so far this year. Last year there were six at this point. If we make it two more weeks without an accident then it will be seven each year.


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    Wreckage of Japan Airlines Flight 516 after the 2024 Haneda Airport runway collision
    • January 2 – In the 2024 Haneda Airport runway collision, Japan Airlines Flight 516, an Airbus A350 operating from New Chitose Airport to Haneda Airport, collided with a Japan Coast Guard De Havilland Canada Dash 8 aircraft while landing. All 379 occupants aboard the Japan Airlines flight were evacuated safely, while five of the six occupants aboard the Coast Guard aircraft were killed. Both aircraft were destroyed. This was the first hull loss of an Airbus A350. The destroyed DHC-8 was set to provide support in the response to the Noto earthquake the day prior.
    • January 5 – Alaska Airlines Flight 1282, a Boeing 737 MAX 9 departing out of Portland International Airport experienced uncontrolled decompression when a plug covering an unused exit door blew out. The aircraft made a safe return to Portland with all 177 people onboard surviving. Nobody was seated next to the blown outdoor plug, and three injuries were reported on board.
    • January 23 – Northwestern Air Flight 738, a British Aerospace Jetstream, crashed shortly after takeoff while carrying mine workers from Fort Smith, Northwest Territories, to the Diavik Diamond Mine in Northwest Territories, Canada, killing six of the seven passengers and crew.
    • February 18 – Air Serbia Flight 324, an Embraer 195 operated by Marathon Airlines, struck landing lights on takeoff at Belgrade Nikola Tesla Airport. The aircraft flew for another hour and made an emergency landing at the same airport with a large hole in the fuselage. All 111 occupants survived unharmed.
    • March 5 – Safarilink Aviation Flight 053, a de Havilland Canada Dash 8, collided with a Cessna 172 over Nairobi National Park in Kenya shortly after takeoff from Wilson Airport with 44 passengers and crew. The Cessna 172 crashed, killing both occupants, while the Dash 8 safely returned to Wilson Airport.
    • March 11 – LATAM Airlines Flight 800, a Boeing 787-9 flying from Sydney, Australia, to Santiago, Chile, with a stopover in Auckland, New Zealand, suffered an in-flight upset, on the first leg of the flight, injuring 50 people. The flight landed safely at Auckland Airport.
    • May 21 – Singapore Airlines Flight 321, a Boeing 777-300ER flying from London to Singapore, encountered severe turbulence, resulting in the death of 1 passenger, and injuring another 104 occupants. As a result of the accident, the flight was diverted to Suvarnabhumi Airport, Bangkok, Thailand.
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    Smoke rising from the crash site of the Saurya Airlines CRJ200
    • July 24 – A Saurya Airlines Bombardier CRJ-200ER crashed shortly after taking off from Kathmandu Tribhuvan Airport, whilst en route to Pokhara International Airport, killing 18 of the 19 occupants on board.
    • August 9 – Voepass Flight 2283, an ATR-72-500 flying from Cascavel Airport to Guarulhos International Airport, São Paulo, Brazil, entered a flat spin and crashed in Vinhedo, São Paulo. All 62 occupants on board died.
    • August 22 – Thai Flying Service Flight 209, a Cessna 208 Grand Caravan flying from Bangkok to Ko Mai Si, Thailand, crashed in a mangrove swamp shortly after taking off from Suvarnabhumi Airport, killing all nine people on board.
    • August 31 – A Vityaz-Aero Mil Mi-8T crashed near the Vachkazhets volcano, in Kamchatka Krai, Russia, in poor weather conditions. All 22 occupants on board were killed.
    • November 9 – Total Linhas Aéreas Flight 5682, a Boeing 737-4Q8 (SF), suffered an in-flight fire in the cargo hold while en route from Vitória to Guarulhos, Brazil. The aircraft performed an emergency landing in Guarulhos. Both crew members onboard survived but the aircraft was destroyed by the fire.
    • November 25 – Swiftair Flight 5960, a Boeing 737-400SF operating on behalf of DHL, crashed near a two-story house on approach to Vilnius, Lithuania, killing one of the four crew members on board.
    • December 23 – Swiss International Air Lines Flight 1885, an Airbus A220-300 operating from Bucharest to Zurich, had to make an emergency landing at Graz Airport due to smoke development in the cabin. The aircraft was evacuated using the emergency slides, and 17 passengers and 5 crew members were hospitalized. SWISS announced on 30 December 2024 that one of the flight attendants had died in the hospital.
    • December 25 – Azerbaijan Airlines Flight 8243, an Embraer 190AR, crashed near Aktau, Kazakhstan during an emergency landing after likely being damaged by a Russian surface-to-air missile. Out of the 67 occupants onboard, 38 people were killed.
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    Wreckage of Jeju Air Flight 2216
    • December 29 – Jeju Air Flight 2216, a Boeing 737-800, crashed into an embankment and exploded while attempting to land at Muan International Airport, South Korea. Out of the 181 occupants onboard, 179 were killed. The accident is the deadliest involving the Boeing 737 Next Generation and the deadliest aviation accident to occur on South Korean soil.
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    The wreckage of the American Eagle CRJ700, N709PS, after the 2025 Potomac River mid-air collision
    • January 28 – Air Busan Flight 391, an Airbus A321-200 operating from Busan to Hong Kong, caught fire shortly before takeoff at Gimhae International Airport. All 176 people onboard survived, with only 7 injuries.
    • January 29 – A Light Air Services Beechcraft 1900, that was carrying oil workers, crashed shortly after takeoff from GPOC Unity Airstrip in South Sudan. Out of the 21 occupants onboard, only 1 occupant survived with injuries.
    • January 29 – In the 2025 Potomac River mid-air collision, American Eagle Flight 5342, a Bombardier CRJ700 operated by PSA Airlines, collided with a US Army Sikorsky UH-60L over the Potomac River, killing all 64 people onboard the CRJ700 and all 3 aboard the UH-60L.
    • February 6 – Bering Air Flight 445, a Cessna 208B Grand Caravan flying from Unalakleet to Nome, Alaska, disappeared over the Norton Sound, and the crash site was located the following day. All 10 people on board were killed.
    • February 17 – Delta Connection Flight 4819, a Bombardier CRJ900, crashed upon landing at Toronto Pearson International Airport. It flipped upside down, but all 76 passengers and 4 crew aboard survived the crash, with 21 injured.
    • March 17 – Aerolínea Lanhsa Flight 018, a British Aerospace Jetstream 32, crashed into the sea after overshooting the runway on takeoff from Roatán Airport. 13 of the 18 people onboard were killed.
    • April 17 – Tropic Air Flight 711, a Cessna 208B Grand Caravan EX, was hijacked while flying from Corozal to San Pedro. The aircraft made an emergency landing in Belize City due to low fuel. On landing, the hijacker injured 3 of the 15 other occupants and was then shot dead by an armed passenger.
     
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  15. gaterzfan

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    This is disconcerting


    Air traffic controllers lost communication with Newark planes – leading to widespread delays after they took leave for trauma

    MSN

    The controllers in Philadelphia Terminal Radar Approach Control, which coordinates planes arriving at Newark, “temporarily lost radar and communications with the aircraft under their control, unable to see, hear, or talk to them,” on Monday April 28, the National Air Traffic Controllers Association said in a statement shared with CNN.

    The connectivity between Federal Aviation Administration radar and the frequencies that air traffic controllers use to manage planes flying in and out of the airport “completely failed,” a source with knowledge of the situation said.

    At least five FAA employees took 45 days of leave as a result of the incident, sources tell CNN.





     
  16. duggers_dad

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    That was a third-degree burn!
     
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  17. VAg8r1

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    My bad, the incidents (go arounds by airliners) attributable to the training flight and the police helicopter were so similar and so close to each other in time that I thought that you were mistaken.
     
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  18. wgbgator

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    He should live as Capt Sully for awhile like Nathan did
     
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  19. G8tas

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    Under Biden's leadership we saw no commercial airline casualties. We've had far too many under Trump's two terms
     
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  20. G8trGr8t

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    avoid Newark...wow

    blind for 90 seconds...

    Newark air traffic control suffers another outage overnight, FAA says

    Newark Liberty International Airport suffered another brief air traffic control outage today, the Federal Aviation Administration confirms, capping another week full of problems for travelers heading to and from New Jersey.

    "There was a telecommunications outage that impacted communications and radar display at Philadelphia TRACON Area C, which guides aircraft in and out of Newark Liberty International Airport airspace. The outage occurred around 3:55 a.m. on Friday, May 9, and lasted approximately 90 seconds," the FAA said in a statement to CBS News New York.
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    The air traffic outage happened less than 24 hours after Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy announced the Trump administration's plan to overhaul the U.S. air traffic control system and replace outdated equipment, which has been blamed for hundreds of delays at Newark over the last two weeks.

    When the widespread delays started last week, crews at the Philadelphia air traffic control facility lost radar and communication with planes in Newark's airspace for at least 30 seconds. The union representing air traffic controllers said multiple controllers took trauma leave after the equipment failure.