War in Ukraine

Strategic genius if you ask me. Putin has lured not only NATO but also other adversarial liberal democracies, such as Japan and Australia, to involuntarily divest themselves of their obsolete, surplus military equipment. Now what are these countries supposed to do in the event of war? Replace those stockpiles with state-of-the-art gear? Ha!

 

He was clearly talking about a Venusian day... day's not even halfway done.

 

You forgot the part about sacrificing their sams to lure them in for the drones to take them out..

 

This is positive. Don’t know the size of the sale but I believe Zalinskyy wanted to purchase $50B of weapons/equipment.

U.S. President Trump approves first $50M arms sale to Ukraine

 

Guess you two missed this

Northern front of the Russian invasion of Ukraine - Wikipedia

 

It looks like Trump is telling Ukraine that as long as they are willing to buy weapons, the US is open for business in terms of FMS. The Ukrainians have been famous for not wanting to buy anything but instead wanting things donated. As long as we can arrange financing for them, this is good news.

 

This seems to be a change from Trump as his initial response to Zelenskyy’s request to purchase was to essentially say “no” without uttering the word.

 

I think that was part of the outreach to Putin to get him to the negotiating table. Now that Putin has shown he is not interested, it is game on.

 

Shocking....liar Trump did NOT get a deal done, Day 1 or otherwise.

 

Well, no deal, for the moment, means no deal that gives Russia whatever it wants and normalizes armed conquest, ringing the dinner bell for China. So let’s all of us — all of us — stop pretending any other other party (yes, including the Trump Administration) than Russia is at fault for a just deal being impossible at this time. The nicest thing I can say is that this whole mummer’s farce was worth the effort just because some people really needed to see the Russian intransigence to believe it. Put the screws to Russia economically and militarily for another year, then dangle a less generous peace.

 

The Mummer's Farce was the parade of idiot after idiot from Trump's caabinet going on the propaganda network and repeating the party line that "Trump, Master Negotiator, can negotiate any deal and can bring this war to an end". There was never going to be a deal and anyone with half a brain knew that the Russians initiated this war and were never going to negotiate any peace deal short of a total and complete surrender.

We did not need the Liar-in-Chief and his band of morons playing "peacemaker" when in fact, Trump is way, way in over his head in these negoatiations.

 

Okay, but ask yourself what you’re more pleased about, that we don’t have to settle for a deal that Russia can pass off as strategic victory (which is frankly all Trump or anyone else could have gotten this year) or that Trump failed? For me, it’s unequivocally the former. I have been saying since Trump won the election that the sides were simply too far apart and not yet exhausted enough to impose a peace that both could live with. Still, I saw the value in going through with trying as a demonstration. We were more than generous with Russia’s fragile ego, having been humbled militarily in a conventional war by a lesser power, but the more we put on offer (much of which wasn’t even ours to offer) the more Russia wanted. I saw that clear as can be back then. I hope the scales are starting to fall from the eyes of those who truly believed a just peace (yes, opinions are going to vary widely on the definition of that) could be reached through negotiation with the Russians at the moment. Russia needs to bleed more, both literally and figuratively. Maybe for one more year. Maybe longer. There will be a point at which Russia will decide holding on to stolen land and stolen people is not quite as “existential” as the volcano brewing at home. Let’s worry about finding that point.

 

Fascinating look at how the war has changed over time. Drones obviate big arrow movements, Russia attack in small packets and is dedicated to “maximum attrition” …

 

Will America find a war it can fight without using other countries’ troops ?

War Between The US And Canada - Is It Now A Real Possibility? | ZeroHedge

No one’s afraid of us anymore …

Geopol: Nations Increasingly Challenge US Military Superiority | ZeroHedge

 

Still quoting ZeroTruth as your primary source, I see.

The U.S. does not want or need any other countries to be afraid of us, unless those countries feel a need to attack us or our interests.

The U.S. will fight a war with its own troops when the war is important enough to our interests to do so. Finding wars to fight is not something high on the U.S. priority list. Fighting a proxy war with an ally against a known and dangerous enemy is a smart thing to do. (Fighting a war with your own troops is a last resort in most cases.) Russia has been defeated and economically destroyed before through one such proxy action, and it wasn't that long ago.

Your Kremlin handlers and propagandists are really pathetic. They seem to want you to challenge the manhood of America to start our own wars so we will disengage with Russia-Ukraine. When we can't find any war to engage in, we would then give up on war altogether and ignore Russia's barbaric invasion of Ukraine.

 

Apparently Putin has given up on Trump attacking Ukraine militarily to help him win the war. Trump may be a dimwitted stooge, but he's America's dimwitted stooge, not Russia's (for now). Putin is focused on the short-term objectives of securing the territory he has seized, and shoring up his failing economy before his country goes bankrupt.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/01/politics/intelligence-putin-war-goals-shifted-ukraine

 

Ukraine has shot down a Russian Su-30 fighter jet with a missile from a sea drone. It is the first time they have ever done that.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...-fighter-jet-sea-drone-first-time-2025-05-03/

 

Totally fair points and well expressed. I am not disagreeing with any of it. You are 100% correct that they had to try to go through the motions of peace talks (though we can debate the terms that the US was offering, which, as you mention, were not always ours to offer) despite everyone knowing that they would fail.

My bone of contention has always been the mythical status created around this guy who is an ignorant buffoon, a failed businessman, a grifter and cheat. Yet, the propaganda machine built up this fake persona of some masterful negotiator who none could oppose and sold it to the mindless zombies in this country. All the while, knowing that he could not succeed.

As for the actual fighting itself, I have no more emotional attachment to the war there than I do the civil wars of the Congo, Myanmar or the endless battle between Ethiopia and Eritrea. I am not mad that the US and NATO continue to supply Ukraine with the means to fight a proxy battle for us against a Russian Army made up largely of people who do not appear to even want to be in the fight.

 

Not that you meant to walk into this, but this attitude is exactly what Russia wants you to embrace: the idea that this war is some kind of an internal struggle between Russian peoples, and we need to mind our own business, when in fact one state has inexcusably invaded another sovereign, independent state. For what it’s worth, I believe we should respect the internal sovereignty of other countries, even when we disagree, even when it hurts to sit back and do nothing. When Russia needed to put down armed rebellion on its territory in Chechnya, I did not object. But when Russia crossed internationally recognized borders to take what “used to be” part of Russia, that’s when I have a problem. That’s when I’m ready to smash in faces.

 

Again, would never argue with that point of view. And, maybe I am the kind of person whose attitude is benefitting Russia. I firmly do not beleive that the US military should be intervening in a war between Russia and Ukraine with direct actions. I have suppported, and will continue to support, the US and NATO arming Ukraine, as well as providing them the intelligence necessary to defend themselves however. Even more important to me is that the Russians are wasting valuable military resources on a meaningless (to me, not them obviously) action.