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Breaking: Terrible GDP report just dropped… worst since Covid

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by WarDamnGator, Apr 30, 2025 at 8:33 AM.

  1. mdgator05

    mdgator05 Premium Member

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    It should be noted that when you look at the underlying data, the economy hummed along quite well in January and pretty well in February. The reversal really started in March. A lot of the "decline" is an increase in imports, which is generally not a bad thing, but it isn't great now because of the reason for the increase in imports (buying inventory to avoid the tariffs/taxes, which will likely cause a sales trough as companies seek to burn off that inventory and consumers stop buying due to their purchases having been shifted up for the same reason).
     
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  2. gator_jo

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    Imagine being a grown adult, having to sit and accept the (supposed) President of the United States trolling his own Cabinet.
     
  3. A100

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    I thought it was THE Columbus day
     
  4. channingcrowderhungry

    channingcrowderhungry Premium Member

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    This is the same cabinet meeting where all the members are sitting around with MAGA hats and Gulf of America hats in front of each one of them. Definitely not weird at all.

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  5. wgbgator

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    He should make them wear them as a sign of loyalty. I only saw Elon put on both at the same time.
     
  6. gatorpa

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    What’s the definition of a recession?

    Last time we had two negative quarters of growth I remember a lot of debate if that was really a recession.
    I think that was about 2022…?
     
  7. rivergator

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    From 2022:

     
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  8. channingcrowderhungry

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    Because Elon craves his love the most
     
  9. reboundgtr

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    So what does all this nonsense mean?

    From MSN:

    "But business investment rose at a 21.9% clip as companies poured money into equipment.
    And a category within the GDP data that measures the economy’s underlying strength rose at a healthy 3% annual rate from January through March, up from 2.9% in the fourth quarter of 2024. This category includes consumer spending and private investment but excludes volatile items like exports, inventories, and government spending."
     
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  10. vegasfox

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    Correct. The NBER males the call as I've stated in the past.
     
  11. insuragator

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    Same as in 1981. By 2027 the economy will be insane. Just like Reagan.
     
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  12. docspor

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    Under Reagan: avg. UE rate = 7.5%, avg. inf rate = 4.68%, Mortgage rates were never below 10%.* Debt increased from 768B to 2.1T. Insane!

    * the day Reagan left office UE, Inf & mortgage rates > than when Biden left & I've heard that Biden left a disaster.
     
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  13. gatorpa

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    In other new my 401k is within 3% of the peak in late January, pre “Trump slump”.

    I credit it to some smart sells and smart buys near the bottom.

    I also ignored my broker’s recommendation to buy the morning of Trump’s big tariff announcement… Go figure
     
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  14. gatorrob87

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    No longer a formal news organization. Stalin would be proud of the way Faux spouts out propaganda to the sheep
     
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  15. WarDamnGator

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    It means the few bright spots in the economy didn't offset the massive slump of the rest of economy. It's like commenting "oh look, the toilets still flush" as the Titanic is sinking...
     
  16. Tjgators

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    We imported a large volume of goods (a deduction in equation)before the tariffs come to fruition. Had we not done that the reports on GDP would have been positive. The economy is not slowing, we are looking at massive investment and growth. We are shifting production to the USA. Federal gov't is shrinking and investments are high in our country. More hysteria from the dumb and dishonest media.
     
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  17. WarDamnGator

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    That is incorrect. Imports have a net effect of zero on GDP. The purchase is counted as a positive, the import is counted as a negative, and they offset each other. You can look that up if don't believe me...
     
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  18. AzCatFan

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    The imports were too keep shelves stocked as long as possible. But we're about to experience shortages like we did post COVID. It's going to cause prices to rise and sales to plummet.

    And we won't be able to onshore the manufacturing quickly. It takes months of planning, months of building or retro-fitting facilities before you can even think about staffing. Then months before you're staff is hired and fully trained.

    That's assuming you can find local staff with enough expertise in your area to be fully staffed. Not always a guarantee.
     
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  19. mdgator05

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    Why would you import a large volume of goods before the tariffs come to fruition? Are you trying to save a foreign country money or something? Isn't that who pays tariffs?
     
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  20. gatordavisl

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    Wait, that's an SNL skit right? I mean please tell me that's an SNL skit.