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Speak English - Safety

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by G8trGr8t, Apr 28, 2025 at 3:53 PM.

  1. WC53

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    If they are South of Orlando, how will they communicate
     
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    That begs the question of why the executive in charge of executing the laws needs to make an executive order to do the law that is already there
     
  3. BLING

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    Some may be able to pass a written exam or pass a basic language class, but it takes time for people to be comfortable speaking conversationally. I’m not so worried about what they use conversationally, but obviously they need to be able to pass a license exam and communicate at least a little. A guy going “No Ingles! No Ingles” really shouldn’t be a delivery driver. Alas, I bet that situation is far from unique (even though ive only had it come up as an issue that one time).


    I recall from my UF days plenty of foreign students who I’m sure were otherwise brilliant, weren’t so great at English. These were people doing masters and phD’s! So it isn’t even like this language barrier is limited to manual labor or low educated immigrants. I recall one Asian professor telling us how he really learned English by watching lots and lots of TV lol.
     
  4. docspor

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    de·reg·u·late
    /dəˈreɡyo͝oˌlāt/
    1. remove regulations or restrictions from.
      "a law that would deregulate cable TV prices"
     
  5. vaxcardinal

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    Well then this is a good thing if my cable prices go down
     
  6. chemgator

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    He'll unload that EO just before the mid-terms. It's his ace-in-the-hole. To shorten it up a bit, Trump will be known as the ace-hole president.
     
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  7. Gator515151

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    One of my nieces married a British guy from Liverpool and I still can't understand a damn thing he says.
     
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  8. Tjgators

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    I think if you want to become a citizen it should be part of the deal. The president of Tanzania made the official language swahili in the 70's and it changed the country for the better. A country like Ethiopia has 80 different languages. They don't get along very well. It's important for learning. I do think Spanish should become a language all kids should have to take as well.
     
  9. demosthenes

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    I don’t understand what is inherently unsafe about it. I used to do expediting in a prior life and dealt with Spanish, Russian and other language drivers with barely any English proficiency. They got around just fine, after all road signs are made so you don’t even have to be able to read.

    The bigger problem, IMO, was drivers with two sets of books so they are driving far more hours than is legal putting the general public at risk. I had one driver with a load that required a crane show up more than 24 hours early. His dispatch said that wasn’t possible, that I was mistaken, until he refreshed his tracking. No explanation for how the driver was 600+ miles ahead of where he should have been.
     
  10. VAg8r1

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    The chances are that they will move in the other direction.
     
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    Also reminds me of the Southern dialect of American English. Many years ago I was a clerk at drug store. A customer asked for "sweet all". I thought she wanted an artificial sweetener when in fact she was asking for "sweet oil" a product for cleaning ears.
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    Another example of the Southern English dialect. This is a "tar"
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  12. channingcrowderhungry

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    I never had issues with them getting around. The issues always arise with instructions for receiving and unloading. Where to park and unload. What to look out for. When to unsecure the load. That kind of stuff. My guess is if I had a safety issue with a driver on my facility OSHA would be on my ass more than the freight company.

    It's not a major concern of mine, but I definitely understand it.
     
  13. reboundgtr

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    Ah the race card…ka-ching. So does this ruling applies only to drivers from south of the border? I missed that part. Please show us. Do these rules not apply to truck drivers from eastern european or the Indian subcontinent? Please clarify.

    Little things do matter like directions, what routes to take, bridge weight limits, road closures, load/unload times, slot times, docks, if they are carrying hazmat or over/outsize cargo, those type of minor inconveniences. I take it your logistics experience is limited to having UPS deliver your latest temu purchase on time or not having enough to google the info.

    “Are drivers…” sometimes, I love irony.
     
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  14. ncargat1

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    I could not care less about this, but from the "becareful of what you ask for", I am quite certain that there are plenty rednecks driving trucks all over the country who cannot speak, or more importantly, pass a written English test.

    Further, cannot help but wonder if this is not in some way shape or form more welfare for Elon. When we do not have enough truckers, does Elon Apartheid step forward and offer the electric, driverless longhaul tractor trailers?
     
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  15. chemgator

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    I think it is rather foolish of Trump to lower the boom on enforcing this requirement without having a transition plan (other than destroying the U.S. economy enough that much of the current amount of trucking is not needed). How is Trump going to get them to learn English? It won't happen overnight.

    My concern is that Trump is using these attempts to disrupt the economy not because he is stupid, but because he wants to become a dictator. Maintaining a worshipping group of lightly-educated fanatics willing to fight for their leader while demonizing and ridiculing the opposition are the first steps to becoming a dictator. The second step is creating an economic disaster big enough to get the poorest and least educated angry enough to fight back at the perceived enemy (who is scape-goated for causing the calamity). He has already declared the J6 criminals to be national heroes. He seems to want everyone else to accept the idea that group violence in his name is a reasonable way to govern. Becoming a dictator would allow Trump to escape prison when he leaves office and preserve (some or all of) his legacy. Maybe he could assign Ivanka or Don, Jr. to be "president" next.
     
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  16. saltydoggator

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    Opposing efforts to have any semblance of a homogenous society because it interferes with the ability to consume is why the US has been relegated to an economic zone rather than a proper country.
     
  17. Norcaligator

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    Not a proper country?
    Please explain how your life experience reflects what you said. What does that even mean?