I've recorded a few higher than that. Gentleman came in complaining of general malaise. He wasn't very forthcoming during his assessment and his wife said it took an act of congress to get him to come in. When I took his blood pressure I could never get to the point where I couldn't hear his heart beat which is where you should go a few squeezes more of the cuff before you release the valve and start to listen for the return of the heartbeat in order to get the systolic reading. I tried one more time and then asked if he had any other symptoms when I learned he had numbness and tingling in his face among other things. Basically his BP was over 300 systolic with a diastolic around 170. He got sent to the ER and lived several years without having a stroke or sudden death I imagine in large part because he started taking BP meds after. They were grateful for the medical care despite a certain someone's fervent assertions and false correlations that they use to validate their contrarian babble.
Again, prior to the bloodbath that was pan-panic, Americans were not just living longer, they were living ACTIVELY. It’s not so much that we’re unhealthy and need meds as it is we’re on meds and designated unhealthy.
We’ve gone back and forth so much, presumably because I’m wrong about everything, I honestly don’t remember why we were talking about weight. Oh, right, you’re the one who’s obsessive about weight and I’m the one pointing out that Americans are clearly and yet we’re living longer and actively longer until pan-panic.
This is the key here. Doctors can only do so much, I think how much they push for a healthier lifestyle may vary from doctor to doctor (and perhaps from patient to patient), but at the end of the day, they don't want you to die. I've seen doctors that, in my view, don't come remotely close to appropriately encouraging a positive lifestyle change, they just settle for the pill route. It's almost like they've given up on the patient's ability to make healthy choices...that's frustrating. Go GATORS! ,WESGATORS
I may have missed it, but I don't believe you addressed diabetes. Do you believe that insulin keeps people alive? Do you believe that there is *any* lifestyle influence over Type 2 diabetes? Go GATORS! ,WESGATORS
Again, not obsessed about weight. I've been obsessed with performance as an athlete most of my life but not as much now in my sixties. My weight and my musculature are a result of a healthy diet and a lot of exercise. I thoroughly enjoy the exercise and all the side benefits it provides me. I may start putting on weight eventually but I doubt that will happen as long as I can be active.
I believe I pointed out, just as with BP and cholesterol, the diagnosis for diabetes threshold has been lowered over time, thereby producing millions more diabetics. Are you one of them ? I’m actually reluctant to conclude that Americans are particularly unhealthy such that we need to MAHA. I think we have a penchant for manufacturing diseases. Does lifestyle play into diabetes ? I doubt that people eat their into diabetes as goes the popular trope. Is insulin keeping people alive ? I don’t know. I’ve never known a diabetic on insulin who went off of it.
You do you! My slim, wiry frame cannot be attributed to a healthy diet or lots of exercise. I just had the foreknowledge to be born to slender parents. Also, get ten people in a room and you’d be hard pressed to find two or three in total agreement regarding “healthy diet.” Same goes for “healthy weight.”
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Good lord! The doctor put me on BP drugs when my BP was 130/80. Isn't that person well within stroke range?
At that point, you're haggling about the finer points of what a healthy diet may consist of across the board. How many of them do you think would encourage people to pound a pint of ice cream while watching 3-4 hours of Netflix and Tiktok and spending little active time outdoors every day? Go GATORS! ,WESGATORS
Not going to speak for duggers. But I think the larger point being made is that we are medicating not always with the patients best interest based on risk benefit as the driving factor for prescribing. Example...Statins. I take simvastatin. But in my circumstance based on discussions with my doctor and certain indicators "Lp(a)" it makes sense. However there are millions that are taking statins that likely do not need them. As our system is antiquated when it comes to heart health and the drug industry is a big reason why if you ask me. There is a new drug out "lepodisiran" that is in the early phases of trials and is showing remarkable results for reducing Lp(a) for an extended period. So much so my doctor wanted me to really consider it and trying to be in the trials. I will absolutely keep an eye on the progress of this drug as it might be a game changer. But I am not in the position where I feel the need to be in a trial. Assuming this drug is great. It still will have a certain group it targets. Yet Eli Lilly will likely try to market it for who knows what. And that is the problem. Let's just hope the reward outweighs the risk as results and time goes on.
