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Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by incoldblood, May 2, 2024.

  1. Crusher

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    Which is performance based and has nothing to do with Name, Image, or Likeness. I guess what torques me off the most about it is that its like someone pissing on my leg and telling me its just raining.

    Even though I don't care for the shift in paradigm that creates the death of a large chunk of amateur sports, I'd much rather hear someone say we're giving Johnny big $$$ because he can run a 10 flat hundred meters with a stolen TV set underneath each arm than this garbage about payments to use his NIL.
     
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  2. TrueGator

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    Man, $130M. That's like $10M per IQ point. NCAA record.

    Bowl haircuts for life.
     
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  3. nawlinsgator

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    Listen, friend. Tell us what you think. Stop telling us what you think we think, it's absurd.
     
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  4. archigator_96

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    Yep, the year I graduated. We were certainly there at a good time.
     
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  5. murphree_hall

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    Well, first let me just get it out there that I think for the majority of the players NIL is largely a sham. I don't want you to get the idea that I am a big fan of it conceptually. I do think that it was unfair/unconstitutional for players to be restricted from and punished for getting money outside of school channels, though.

    Ok, that aside, your performance informs your value to a company who wishes to use your name, image, and likeness to their benefit. I can't agree with you that performance has nothing to do with NIL.
     
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  6. murphree_hall

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    I clearly said what I think. I think that many people dislike NIL because of the large amount that these young athletes are getting. I'm not even sure why you are turning this conversation into the Inception movie.
     
  7. Crusher

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    Agree

    At least initially, but eventually if you perform well enough to earn accolades and are exposed to a regional, national, or worldwide audience definitely. The concept of NIL value for a HS Senior is almost a hen's teeth rarity. Maybe some local yokel slips him or her a $20 down at the hamburger stand once in awhile, but that doesn't mean his NIL is worth anywhere close to what has been discussed for many Div 1 football players. It interesting to me how the NCAA keeps coming up with these ridiculous misnomers. Player NIL value is more of a farce than the concept of "Student-Athlete" that the NCAA used to bandy about.
     
  8. Skink

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    You’re making assumptions here that are off-target. I have no jealousy toward athletes receiving NIL money. I think what they had prior to NIL was and still is way undervalued. The benefits for a scholarship football player are way into 6 figures. But greed and a deteriorating set of values have rendered the education, world-class medical, nutrition, position training, living expenses, and the opportunity for a 4-year college diploma all but useless, in favor of instantaneous near-term money. This is particularly laughable when you consider that literally 99% of these kids will ultimately find themselves in need of these benefits for the rest of their lives because they won’t make it in the MFL.

    So I disagree with, and disapprove of this system and especially in how it has been implemented. I hate that this has buried the original values of college sports, reducing loyalty and love of school to laughable cliche’s. NIL and how it has become manifest has ruined college football. So I hate it — but “jealous”? Not a chance
     
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  9. Skink

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    EXACTLY
     
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  10. Skink

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    I haven’t. That’s never been the argument
     
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  11. Skink

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    So you’re back to railing against old fat people again Rick? :D
    LMAO
     
  12. antny1

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    Not on these boards. I can't recall any posters complaining about that and if there are it isn't many. I'm sure there is a fringe sentiment out there but that isn't what's driving complaints or discussion at all
     
  13. murphree_hall

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    Ok, you haven't seen it, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen. Several of us saw it, and I remember the back and forth the posters had on it.
     
  14. murphree_hall

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    Yes it did happen on these boards. At least once, it was explicitly stated. Other times it was implied.
     
  15. Skink

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    I don’t think anybody here disagrees with the original spirit of NIL. Somebody makes thousands selling jerseys with HARVIN on the back — Percy deserves a cut of that. No-brainer.

    It’s the implementation of NIL that’s at issue here.

    The NIL value of an incoming freshman is by-definition ZERO. Nobody buys a jersey with an incoming freshman’s name on the back of it, except maybe friends and family. Yet, giant amounts of NIL money are being thrown at - incoming freshman.

    THIS IS NOT NIL. It’s pay for play, plain and simple. Who in their right mind supports this kind of system, yet this is what NIL morphed into, faster than the ink dried on the first NIL check that left John Ruiz’s desk.

    So yes, NIL as we know it today sucks.
     
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  16. Skink

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    “Several of us”? Only person I’m hearing this from is you. In contrast, consider the number of posters here disagreeing with you
     
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  17. Skink

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    You’re searching. Or perhaps it’s you who’s jealous
     
  18. Wanne15

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    You can’t get a fast food worker for 5-10000 a year. The payout for top players needs a couple more zeros. Paying them all the same is for the other half of the world. Lagway getting the same paycheck as the second string long snapper has no chance of being accepted nor should it.
     
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  19. nawlinsgator

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    Please. I say pay them all the same and let the real NIL pay them the rest, like actual commercials and crap. Stop bringing politics into this.
     
  20. Wanne15

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    Yep, it the corrupted system that stinks . If they could just be honest about how it really works and put it in the open, that would be a good start.