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“The Government was the Primary Source of Misinformation During the Pandemic and the Government…

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by QGator2414, Apr 30, 2024.

  1. AgingGator

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    You probably enjoyed that UV light.
     
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  2. mdgator05

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    It didn't fall under their policy because it hadn't been published. Stanford Med officially ripped the paper for obvious errors and the appearance of a conflict-of-interest. He just used it to lie to you (which you are happy about, we know).
     
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  3. g8trjax

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    The govt's most always the source of disinformation, considering we are ruled by a bunch of lying sociopaths.
     
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  4. QGator2414

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    Yep. Note how no one can show Bhattacarya was or is wrong. They know they fell for the propaganda peddled by the government. The odd thing is they cannot admit it.
     
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  5. duggers_dad

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    The left cheered V in V for Vendetta.

    They pulled for Catness in Hunger Games.

    But “STFU and trust the government” in 2020.
     
  6. mdgator05

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    I suspect that you don't want to dig down into this, but I am happy to do so. He was wrong because he didn't account for false positives properly in a test with a low positivity rate and because he recruited a population in which his recruitment methods would affect his dependent variable and then analyzed that dependent variable. Do you want me to get more specific or do you want to pretend that this didn't just happen?
     
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  7. QGator2414

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    He was right and it was easy to see. Any worth anything in public health knew this disease was not dangerous to most. You fell for the authoritarians. It is what it is when it comes to that.

    They knew from the very beginning that Bhattacarya was right. Yet they silenced him to peddle the misinformation you somehow still believe to this day.
     
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  8. mdgator05

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    As I suspected, you went back to catchphrases and want to pretend that being told of how he spread falsehoods never happened.
     
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  9. philnotfil

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    If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

    It was courteous of you to explain the problems with Bhattacarya's methodology, but have you seen anything in this poster's history that suggests they have enough knowledge of statistics to understand the issues in how Bhattacarya setup the study and analyzed the data?
     
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  10. QGator2414

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    The falsehoods were driven by the government. Censoring the truth to push their agenda is exactly what we witnessed. Causing generational harm. Sadly many that should be held accountable will not be.
     
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    Q has singularly convinced me that mental health effects from the Pandemic were real. An excellent demonstration. Bravo sir.
     
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  12. philnotfil

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    Do you believe Ladapo deleted data that didn't agree with the conclusion he wanted?
     
  13. QGator2414

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    Ladapo has correctly followed the data and science. One of the best in the business. He was willing to question what did not make sense. We are blessed to have him. We did enough damage to our kids here in Florida in the Spring of 2020.
     
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  14. mdgator05

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    5 sentences and 5 catchphrases. Not one bit of addressing the point that I made. It reminds me a bit of the Pulp Fiction line about listening or waiting to speak. Okay, I am finished speaking so you can speak again. We both know that you aren't listening at all.
     
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  15. philnotfil

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    According to some people, this is what it looks like to correctly follow the data and science:

    Why Ladapo's withholding of Florida COVID vaccine data 'seems irresponsible at best'

    Scientists are calling on Florida Surgeon General Dr. Joseph Ladapo to revise his recommendation that young men not get COVID-19 vaccines after public records revealed he withheld key information from an analysis when publishing that guidance.

    Last October, Ladapo cited a state analysis that found young men had an elevated risk of cardiac-related death after getting the shot. Documents obtained by the Tampa Bay Times show the state also had data that found the risk was much higher after COVID infection, which was not in Ladapo's final report.

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    We posted all of the drafts online so readers can read it and make their own minds up. In every one, the conclusion was that COVID infection was a far greater risk than getting a vaccine. But in the published report, the one that FDOH published on their website, they had changed the wording of the conclusion. They had, for example, removed the words “much larger.”

    Epidemiologists that I showed the drafts to — we showed them to four different epidemiologists, some from within Florida, some from outside — all agreed that the surgeon general should rescind his recommendation, that the data does not support it.
     
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    It's actually about 446K deaths under Trump and 774K deaths under Biden. On a per month basis that comes to 44.6K deaths per month under Trump and 19.8K deaths per month under Biden. Unvaccinated people are about 4 or 5 times more likely to die from covid than vaccinated people are. The vaccines saved a lot of lives. Any questions?
     
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  17. VAg8r1

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    Trump's "warp speed shot" was actually one of his few accomplishments.
     
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  18. dangolegators

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    It's funny and fitting that the one good thing that Trump is associated with is the thing his MAGAs hate the most.
     
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  19. VAg8r1

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    Agree. When he would promote the vax at his MAGA rallies it was one of the few times that he was booed by his red hat wearing supporters. It goes without saying that he hasn't done so since 2021.
     
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    I modified your post to reflect what you should have written, given who was in charge at the time. I'm sure you're a big accountability guy, right? People need to be responsible for doing their jobs....
     
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