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Post-Game Discussion: FLORIDA vs Georgia

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by ETGator, Oct 29, 2022.

  1. antny1

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    I'm actually high on Napier and critical of the things you mention at the same time. I guess my hope is that a self purported analytical and holistic methodological coach and bloated staff will make the necessary changes going forward. I also leave room to believe that Napier and company aren't throwing the entire book at the team as they most likely believe they have to install everything in a process.

    I'd like to see some more creativity from the staff especially after a bye week but it is what it is at this point. Admittedly these are all hopes at this time and not based on much else.
     
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  2. wci347

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    UGA did not have the foundation we had established. Let’s face it. As good as Foley was in building up our athletic department during his tenure, he was equally horrific in finding a successor to Spurrier and Meyer.

    In that same time period, UGA suffered with Mark Richt. Their AD hit a home run with Smart, and until Napier all we have gotten was a few bunt singles from the slew of coaches and OCs we brought on board.
     
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  3. WC53

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    I agree with this, with the caveat of, process often gets in the way of innovative thinking.
     
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  4. antny1

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    Yeah. I don't think it HAS to be mutually exclusive though as proven by Meyer in 2005. We came out from a bye week and threw enough wrinkles at Georgia to win that game. People seem to forget though that we hindered our offense and season potential that year for the sake of the long game. I will always wonder what we could have won in 2005 had we not forced the Meyer spread offense on Leak. We didn't win the titles in 06 because of our offense either really. The offense only really fired off in 07 and 08 before starting to become disjunct in 09 going forward. In any event no one would trade the 2 titles but I wonder if we really had to sacrifice 05 for them. We'll never know
     
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    Seem to remember some of that was UM not using a FB to help with blocking on some of his schemes. My dang memory isn’t what it used to be.
     
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  6. wci347

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    Richardsond’s draft prospects have plummeted. His only realistic hope is staying at Florida and competing literally competing for a starting position next year if we get in a top flight freshman or transfer through the portal. Alternatively he could go into the portal and get a guaranteed starting position with a program that’s going to have high visibility. Those are his only two options right now. He’s not getting drafted as a QB this year.

    There are at least eight quarterbacks in the SCC that are playing better than he is right now let alone other conferences. We have to take into consideration that he is a freshman basically this is his first year as a starter and I believe we should give him time however he’s going to have to earn the starting position next year it’s not a gimme.
     
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  7. staticgator

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    Smart is a defensive coach on the level Spurrier was on offense. He’s always going to have an advantage over Napier because Napier simply isn’t that kind of coach.
     
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  8. gainesvillegreen44

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    I agree. I’m hopeful. I’m hopeful- much like the evolution of Saban and Kirby…CBN takes a look at what can be more effective and attacking. We’ve gone through a few coaches in a row with stubborn blind spots so I’m trepidatious and his offense at ULL - while effective and it did evolve- it was not super creative. They won a ton of close games. He’s calling a next level run game most of the time…. And I’m not asking for him to be Reilly or Leach but we gotta get out of 12/bunch so often
     
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  9. antny1

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    Correct. Following a loss to LSU where they turned the ball over 5 times yet our offense couldn't do enough to win. Added a fullback and got an early jump on Georgia. Defense held on to win.

    As a Napier supporter I have to admit I was pretty disappointed to see how we started the game following a bye week.
     
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  10. okeechobee

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    Wow, that’s really a stretch to say we may have sacrificed 2005 for the sake of the spread. The team was a train wreck the season prior with Zook. A national title the next year with a new head coach is a little unrealistic if you ask me. As for 2006, I think you do have to credit the spread offense at least as much as the defense that year. Leak actually handled that change brilliantly. It was a new look from the Gators that nobody truly seemed to be prepared for.
     
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    When it’s all said and done, i think we ALLLLL can agree, these Mullen recruits can go. Everyone of them can be gone at the end of the season and im sure besides maybe Austin Barber, we won’t be tight about it.

    Players out here tweeting at halftime and stuff, man they can get outta here. I can say whatever about the staff and what they can or cant do but they HAVE to be given two more years to wipe the roster clean of the stench of the last regime.
     
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  12. antny1

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    Don't want to derail the thread but we ran a spread under Zook that was effective with Fedora. Our offense was a struggle in 2005 and started to gel by the end middle to end of 2006. It's not for fetched to think we could have beaten LSU and South Carolina that year as they were both close losses with anemic offense. We probably are much more competitive against Bama that year as well without them teeing off on Leak due to the scheme change with the line blocking which was a huge struggle for them at the time.
     
  13. gatorempire

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    Just watched. No idea what you saw, but there were not guys open all over.
     
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  14. gatorempire

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    I don't believe in throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

    Every coach that sees success in years 1-3 leans on prior coach's recruits to some degree.

    If they're undisciplined, you try to instill discipline.
     
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  15. staticgator

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    Richt was an excellent coach who left a great foundation. We’ve probably never had a coach who left our program in as good of shape as Richt left the Dawgs for Smart.
     
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  16. benheb

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    Just stop with the garbage about "just observations" and then predicting a sub .500 season in the next sentence. All I'm saying is it's too early to make these predictions but you disagree. Your prerogative so why don't you relax? You're negative but maybe you're right. If your proclamation turns out to be correct, I'm sure we can revisit how right you were at the end of the season and gather culprits for the under bus throwing.
     
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  17. benheb

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    I have to agree with the benefits of running AR more. It seems like the coaches are actively resisting doing this because they are trying to establish something long term with regard to identity or overall completeness of AR's game. Maybe it is something like improving Tebow's throwing motion when the Gators clearly didn't need to do that to win so it wasn't tried until his senior year. I don't know but I'd like to give them the benefit of the doubt but i get that others don't. We need to win some games here. Hopefully we can do that and hone the skills of the team for next year at the same time.
     
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  18. iam4uf

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    Here's a UGA fan site with their take on Smart's 1st year. He didn't look great.
    Kirby Smart’s first year at Georgia a learning experience
     
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  19. Crusher

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    Of course they did. They lost to Vandy at home. I'm sure there was a meltdown.
     
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  20. Crusher

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    Disagree. The OL is fine only compared to mid-level SEC teams, not Nat Champ contenders. They were absolutely shredded yesterday....and that was even after Nolan Smith went to the bench. Only the best player on the line held his own, Torrance. Its a sad reflection on where we are when a UL player is instantly the best player on the line when he shows up.
     
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