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Coronavirus in the United States - news and thoughts

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by GatorNorth, Feb 25, 2020.

  1. NavyGator93

    NavyGator93 GC Legend

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    It's lazy and defeatist. You see it with all sorts of issues but what it comes down to often is that people are lazy, self centered.......
     
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  2. exiledgator

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    This is interesting.

    A few things jump out at me:
    • What did Colorado do different? They are the only state to open before May1 that has seen a decline (SD, too - but largely flat and low pop density). Weed? ;)
    • 75% of states that opened before May1 have increases. Large ones.
    • 70% of states that opened before May15 have increases
    • 45% of states that opened later have increases (also - what did OR, CA, LA, WA do wrong?)
    I'd love to see similar data regarding mask wearing.
     
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  3. G8R8U2

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    Huh? Latest estimates say 6-8 months for a vaccine; folks just need to avoid acting the fool for 6 months or so... but if we keep going at this rate, closures and quarantines are most certainly what comes next.
     
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  4. G8trGr8t

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    How do you explain other countries being able to control the spread?
     
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  5. exiledgator

    exiledgator Gruntled

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    I agree w/ @pkaib01. I'd like to see how we fit. I (kinda) followed his math, but he picked the two countries that aggressively and successfully fought to contain the virus.

    I don't understand his conclusion where he says, "The terrible thing we're fearing is not true about a single outbreak" - when he bases this off of only NZ and SK.

    Would love to see the data that shows he's correct.
     
  6. G8trGr8t

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  7. pkaib01

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    Yeah. I don't doubt that diseases are not truly exponential in our communities. Our responses to the epidemic as well as our limit population (herd immunity) retards the exponent. Note that even the Gros Michel banana plague in the 1950s showed diminishing growth even though it wiped out the entire population.

    Even though we've peaked, plateaued and accelerated again due to multiple outbreaks, we likely fit his pre-peak function. As @exiledgator implied, we don't know about other other side of the curve yet nor does the current fit function provide any insight on when that may happen.
     
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  8. BLING

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    I had never head of this disease, then I googled and realized you were actually talking about bananas, not people.

    Interestingly, that "banana plague" seems to be back since there are a bunch of articles about it now spreading to latin America (where most of our bananas are from). Wouldn't that just be great...
     
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  9. pkaib01

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    Thanks. I erred on Cavendish, it was actually Gros Michel bananas that got wiped out. Mea culpa

    Welcome to GatorCountry! Come for the football, stay for the bananas.

    The Unfortunate Sex Life of the Banana
     
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  10. exiledgator

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    This outright lie deserves a 3 day ban. Inexcusable.
     
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  11. Gatorhead

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    I would call it criminal negligence.
     
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  12. G8trGr8t

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    Big problem is that banana growers went all in on one strain of bananas so they have largely lost genetic variety that helps to control the spread.
     
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  13. GatorNorth

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    That's just a fancy way of saying it's stupidity.
     
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  14. gatorpa

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    You just helped make his point.
    Without a vaccine stopping it is very hard.

    Please refer to malaria for proof.
     
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  16. NavyGator93

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    Yeah. The error was so outlandish and egregious, I didn't even think it was worth pointing out. Cavendish..... Please.
     
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  17. gatorpa

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    Even if there was "one Voice" the US can not be compared to NZ/SK. It's like comparing Australia to Cuba because they are both islands.
     
  18. NavyGator93

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    Take away Jake Fromm's 279 passing yards against us in the Cocktail party this year and that is a win for the Gators.
     
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  19. ncargat1

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    United States as of July 8th = 166 new cases per million people per day (total population ~ 330 million)

    European Union as of July 8th = 9 new cases per million people per day (total population ~ 440 million)

    This pandemic was NOT unavoidable, it just required people to show discipline and not be completely ignorant.

    The United States failed on all counts.
     
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  20. ncargat1

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    Are we still blaming democrats and media for making up faux stories about hospitals getting overwhelmed?

    Mississippi hospitals become overwhelmed as coronavirus cases increase
     
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