Wow Jon Stewart calls out Sebelius

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    She sounded absolutely stupid
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    She sounds just about capable enough to be an Administrative Assistant for a low level Corporate Executive…at best.

    To believe she's in the position she is….quite stunning.
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    Probably due to knee pads
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    Sad thing she is actually smarter than her boss, she just doesn't know how to lie anywhere as well as him.
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    I actually think Stewart usually does a nice job with his more serious political interviews of both the left and the right.
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    Spit my beer across the table
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    Stewart is not a newsperson but he is a very liberal entertainer who occasionally has
    Moments of lucidity - that in and of itself is shocking
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    Did you guys watch the whole thing? He was good until he said "Why cant we go to a single payer system?" Well Jon, you're an idiot if you think that this same government that rolled out a website full of issues and frankly not finished, will ever be ready to take on ALL of healthcare.
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    It is scary this woman has as much power over Americans as she does.

    Stewart was good though. However it was ironic that he says we deserve single payer and then stands up and sings Greenwood's God Bless the USA line "Where at least I know I am free". I guess as long as you are not one who delivers healthcare...
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    Her mentor is Nancy Pelosi, so she's in good hands.
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    Single payer does not have to be government running healthcare.
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    LOL!

    Oh wait you are on the same page with Art and think the single payer should be the patient?!?!
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    And to add insult to injury Obama outsourced this crap-site to the Canucks... Probably the same geniuses that ran Blackberry into obsolescence.
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    Yeah, I actually agree with you. Sad that America is less resourceful than Norway, Japan, UK, Kuwait, Sweden, Bahrain, Brunei, Canada, United Arab Emirates, Finland, Slovenia, Italy, Portugal, Cyprus, Spain, and Iceland (all of which are single payer). Out of the 33 developed nations of the world, only one did not have some form of universal care (USA) until the current mandate. Only because of the uneducated on the subject and the lack of desire to read anything in this country did we go with the mandate over two-tier or single payer (both of which are far better).

    Countries with Universal Health Care: (make sure you look at the dates as 19 years separate the last modern country to switch to Universal Health and us to the lowest level of UHC). Following list was compiled by the World Health Organization (WHO).


    Norway 1912 Single Payer
    New Zealand 1938 Two Tier
    Japan 1938 Single Payer
    Germany 1941 Insurance Mandate
    Belgium 1945 Insurance Mandate
    United Kingdom 1948 Single Payer
    Kuwait 1950 Single Payer
    Sweden 1955 Single Payer
    Bahrain 1957 Single Payer
    Brunei 1958 Single Payer
    Canada 1966 Single Payer
    Netherlands 1966 Two-Tier
    Austria 1967 Insurance Mandate
    United Arab Emirates 1971 Single Payer
    Finland 1972 Single Payer
    Slovenia 1972 Single Payer
    Denmark 1973 Two-Tier
    Luxembourg 1973 Insurance Mandate
    France 1974 Two-Tier
    Australia 1975 Two Tier
    Ireland 1977 Two-Tier
    Italy 1978 Single Payer
    Portugal 1979 Single Payer
    Cyprus 1980 Single Payer
    Greece 1983 Insurance Mandate
    Spain 1986 Single Payer
    South Korea 1988 Insurance Mandate
    Iceland 1990 Single Payer
    Hong Kong 1993 Two-Tier
    Singapore 1993 Two-Tier
    Switzerland 1994 Insurance Mandate
    Israel 1995 Two-Tier
    United States 2014 Insurance Mandate
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    All of those countries are our bi!@es. We invent and innovate more than any one of those ' not so great' countries.

    Our medicines/drugs and medical innovations leads the entire world, especially in cutting edge device technologies, far better than any of those countries you posted.
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    Without a doubt medical and biological innovation, by a long shot is lead by the US but countries like the France, UK, etc do plenty.

    That said, it has nothing to do with the country being able to properly run healthcare. I was actually agreeing with whoever posted that we would have difficulty running a government middle-manned healthcare system but that's because it's so late in the game.

    You're contention that we are so far ahead of these countries in our abilities makes the point that we could.

    Healthcare and bio/medical-research and development are in no way linked and the global monetary benefits of developing things that cure people would still be there regardless of the type of healthcare system we have in this country.

    It's time for people to not die because they are in a lower health bracket. Private medicine still exists for the wealthy in countries that have single payer systems like the UK and Canada. It's not illegal.
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    Good post, but I'm not confusing our private sector medical innovations and inventions with the government's inability to run things, I'm actually saying the opposite.
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    She is an idiot. We need a single payer system. Obama is a fascist and could never hurt his big insurance and big drug companies so he did not offer a single payer system.
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    Then I ask you, what fear do you have that American innovation would be harmed by a single payer system if you agree that the private sector, which is often funded by government grants, pushes these innovations and inventions?

    I'm not saying you are making a point for a single payer system, I'm just trying to place your comments in response to my listing of developed nations UHC plans versus us. It seemed contextually misplaced. I agree with you that we lead innovation but how does that matter to healthcare?

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