Would we benefit from going back to the spread option?

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    In 2010, with no QB, we were ranked in the 80's in total offense. After we moved to a pro-style offense, we've been in the 100's ever since. I understand that blocking has been a fundamental issue in our offense's inability to produce, and switching systems would by no means fix our blocking, but there has to be some substance in our regression since the switch. I also understand that implementing a new system will cause some confusion, but in year 2 under Meyer (who I am not here to pump up as our lord and savior) we won a championship with a relatively complex offense. So, what do you say? Obviously it's not going to happen, but we can speculate
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    No.

    We went from 6th in the nation to 82d in the nation with the same offense for a reason, and it wasn't Addazio. We didn't have the horses to run it then. We don;t have the horses to run it now, particularly midway through the season.

    Meyer's second season had a few variables that we don't have, starting with the quarterback, followed by a true freshman at WR/RB, and a host of experienced players on offense. In 2005, the spread option was an unmitigated disaster.
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    Honest to god this offense needs - and this is the first time I'd ever say this - a lot more gimmicks.

    Not a change in offense, but enough stuff to keep defenses off-guard.
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    No...and is our current offense really pro-style? It doesn't look very professional to me.
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    I think we'd "benefit" from having a hybrid system that employs the best of both worlds. Mastering that is the holy grail of college football, IMHO.
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    Agreed. Muschamp has always talked about being multiple on defense. I wish we were multiple on offense
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    Not only is our offense not pro-style (in this sense the traditional kind from the 90s/early 00s), but contemporary "pro-style" is basically a form of the spread if not the spread option.
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    Step 1 - Master blocking
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    Step 999 - Master hybrid system
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    :grin: I totally agree.
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    And the 49er's are running the Pistol, which was a big part of Auburn's offense when they won with Cam Newton
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    Auburn in 2010 was almost entirely a standard shotgun spread option team.

    But the point is that football innovates from the ground up. The NFL is always slow to change - 10 years ago people thought we'd never have any form of option in the NFL again.

    When people talk about "pro-style" they generally mean something akin to the traditional West Coast offense (which is run very little in the NFL in 2013). We don't do that. Our offense shares very little with that.
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    Maybe it was the year after, then? I thought McCalebb was smoking people out of the pistol formation.

    I really do believe that the spread option works in the SEC, you just have to have the right guys to run it
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    No - what we need is better playcalling and better execution.
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    Step 1 - Better execution
    Step 2 - Better play calling
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    Exactly... and better execution starting with the OL.

    Nobody can call successful plays when the OL is getting blown up.
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    I do think we have to spread out, to get the opposing defense spread out, if we are going to continue to run up the middle. We can't run in there with everyone bunched in one pile.
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    Of course we would. Talent in Florida is centered around speed and athleticism. Almost all of UF's real success (championships) in football have been due in part to the spread the field mentality. Call the Fun 'n Gun what you want, but no offense before or since spread the field like it did.
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    But we won with strong run teams and dominant defenses before (and I'll call 1984 and 1985 championship teams, thank you much)...

    Too many Florida "speed and athleticism" guys are lining up to play for Nick Saban. they aren't repelled by it.

    Miami's great teams were not offensive juggernauts. Looking at their 2 loss or fewer seasons:

    Year---------Pts Scored Rank----------Pts Allowed Rank

    1981.........................53d...............................17th
    1983.........................28th................................3d
    1985.........................27th................................5th
    1986...........................3d.................................4th
    1987...........................6th................................2d
    1988...........................9th................................2d
    1989...........................8th................................1st
    1990...........................6th................................8th
    1991.........................16th................................1st
    1992.........................13th................................5th
    1994.........................22d.................................2d
    2000...........................3d.................................7th
    2001...........................3d.................................1st
    2002...........................4th..............................22d
    2003.........................51st................................4th

    Now Miami had some great offensive teams, for sure, but they almost always were defensive dominant.

    Florida State and Florida, OTOH, were offensive dominant teams during the 1990s, but during the Meyer Era, Florida was defensive dominant:

    Year--------Total Offense---------Total Defense

    2005..................61st..........................9th
    2006..................19th..........................6th
    2007..................14th........................42d
    2008..................15th..........................9th
    2009....................6th..........................4th
    2010..................82d............................9th

    Average.............33d.........................13th
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    Step 1. Scrap the gimmicky o-line schemes and start knocking the crap out of the guy across from you. Engage and push, don't wait for the d-lineman to engage you and try to hold your ground.

    Step 2. Spread it out. When all 11 offensive players and all 11 defensive players are within 5-8 yards of the line of scrimmage, very little good can happen. Btw, when was the last time we ran a post route and threw over the top of a safety?

    Step 3. Create a mismatch. Offense today is built on creating and exploiting mismatches. Again, 22 guys within 5-8 yards of the los doesn't create a mismatch.

    Step 4. Throw the ball on 1st down. Loosen up the defense and back the safeties up. They crash the los every 1st and 2nd down because they have zero fear of a pass. Attack the middle of the field. Teams are so bunched inside, the middle is wide open.
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    As far as I'm concerned, we should be in full-on panic mode about this offense. Normally I would say we need to give everyone time, but what for? Do they really need more time to learn this system under Brent? Players last year said it really wasn't a different system, just a few name changes. I feel like Joker Phillips is the only offensive staff member who has even tried this year. Our offensive line, TE's, and RB's look totally off (besides KT). Have to give a pass to Leak for multiple reasons. All that said, we need change and we need it quickly.

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