Why it's easy to be a liberal...

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by mocgator, Aug 26, 2013.

  1. mocgator
    Offline

    mocgator Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2007
    Messages:
    6,297
    Likes Received:
    272
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Location:
    The ATL
    Ratings Received:
    +506
    Because you have hypocracy down to an art...

    Dennis Miller gives a perfect example..

    https://twitter.com/dennisdmz/status/371746291090329600

    If you're a creationist, Libs cite Darwin. If you say you adhere to survival of the fittest they tell you to be more christ-like in giving.
  2. wgbgator
    Offline

    wgbgator Sub-optimal Poster Premium Member

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2007
    Messages:
    22,318
    Likes Received:
    357
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Location:
    Orlando, FL
    Ratings Received:
    +1,357
    Herbert Spencer coined the term "survival of the fittest," not Darwin.
  3. mocgator
    Offline

    mocgator Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2007
    Messages:
    6,297
    Likes Received:
    272
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Location:
    The ATL
    Ratings Received:
    +506
    I should also have noted that liberals are great at deflection...
  4. wgbgator
    Offline

    wgbgator Sub-optimal Poster Premium Member

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2007
    Messages:
    22,318
    Likes Received:
    357
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Location:
    Orlando, FL
    Ratings Received:
    +1,357
    If by which you mean introducing facts which blow up someone's stupid statement, then yes.
  5. GatorRade
    Offline

    GatorRade Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2007
    Messages:
    6,743
    Likes Received:
    188
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Ratings Received:
    +569
    Well, it was sort of a cheap joke. Not to mention that it obviously applies in reverse to many conservatives.
  6. surfn1080
    Offline

    surfn1080 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2008
    Messages:
    1,094
    Likes Received:
    37
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Ratings Received:
    +149
    I believe he was going with your little correction had nothing to do with op's point or that of Miller.

    Anyhow the Republican Party is in some state of lost identity at the moment too...
  7. GatorRade
    Offline

    GatorRade Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2007
    Messages:
    6,743
    Likes Received:
    188
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Ratings Received:
    +569
    I think what wgb is saying is that it isn't exactly hypocrisy to accept the science of natural selection and disagree with Herbert Spencer's application into human societies.
  8. wgbgator
    Offline

    wgbgator Sub-optimal Poster Premium Member

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2007
    Messages:
    22,318
    Likes Received:
    357
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Location:
    Orlando, FL
    Ratings Received:
    +1,357
    Well, mutual aid and cooperation are part of the reason for our success as a species if you are a Darwinist, so the point fails there too.
  9. oldgator
    Offline

    oldgator Premium Member

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2007
    Messages:
    13,605
    Likes Received:
    138
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Ratings Received:
    +139
    why it's even harder to be a conservative----

    the tent keeps getting smaller and smaller. due to each con trying to prove he(or she) is even more conservative than other Republicans/conservatives. If you aren't at the extreme end of conservative attitudes---then you just aren't gonna get promoted by Fox, et al.

    sooner or later, there will be a champion ultra-con....in a tent all by himself(or herself)

    bottom line---liberal/Dems party is inclusive...whereas cons/GOP is exclusionary(though they try to blow smoke on this by having token minorities. Though they spout angry old white guy one-liners)
  10. rpmGator
    Offline

    rpmGator Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2007
    Messages:
    12,600
    Likes Received:
    129
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Ratings Received:
    +494
    Conservatives and Liberals. So stuck on fighting each other, the nation has no one at the steering wheel.
  11. GatorRade
    Offline

    GatorRade Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2007
    Messages:
    6,743
    Likes Received:
    188
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Ratings Received:
    +569
    As it was designed.
  12. gatordowneast
    Offline

    gatordowneast Premium Member

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2007
    Messages:
    11,748
    Likes Received:
    303
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Ratings Received:
    +985
    As to your point about the tent getting smaller...I would refer you to the Robert Frost poem "I took the road less traveled, and that has made all the difference."

    We are at a crossing point in our nation's history. Do we stand on principle or pander so everyone likes us? Not sure, but I like Frost's answer.
  13. wgbgator
    Offline

    wgbgator Sub-optimal Poster Premium Member

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2007
    Messages:
    22,318
    Likes Received:
    357
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Location:
    Orlando, FL
    Ratings Received:
    +1,357
    Most people don't read that poem literally. I like this comment about the narrator in The Road Not Taken:

  14. tim85
    Online

    tim85 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2009
    Messages:
    3,871
    Likes Received:
    279
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Location:
    Jacksonville, FL
    Ratings Received:
    +1,021
    I'm going to go ahead and say it:


    I think this thread should be removed.

    I just don't know why you have to label people as Liberals. I mean, aren't "liberals" people just like anyone else? I mean, just because millions of people all believe the same thing doesn't mean you should be able to categorize them like that. Collectively we're all in this together. This thread is obviously party-baiting.
    • Like Like x 1
  15. oldgator
    Offline

    oldgator Premium Member

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2007
    Messages:
    13,605
    Likes Received:
    138
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Ratings Received:
    +139

    there is a world of difference between standing on principle-AND--trying to be the most extremist fanatic in the tend.

    When I think of Frost I think of his ""Good fences make good neighbors."

    much of today's problems both domestically as well as in international relations are a result of not respecting the rights of others. Be it related to property, nation borders, or beliefs.

    On the matter of 'principles', I tend to beleive Frost is referring to spiritual principles such as honesty, hope, faith(religious or non religious), integrity, justice, etc

    as opposed to extremists today referring to party stance on issues being 'principles'

    Principles such as honesty, hope, integrity are to be maintained no matter the circumstance. stances on issues should change over time as society changes, etc.

    sadly, extremists put party platform ahead of principles
  16. DaveFla
    Offline

    DaveFla Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2007
    Messages:
    18,324
    Likes Received:
    145
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Ratings Received:
    +949

    Spot on...
  17. icequeen
    Offline

    icequeen Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 21, 2013
    Messages:
    4,325
    Likes Received:
    1,941
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Buffalo, NY
    Ratings Received:
    +2,904
    No, and here's why. This is too hot. It's meant to be a place of debate, etc. I've seen plenty of baiting when I was just an observer from ALL sides, and that's part of what makes this place what it is. People start removing threads just because they're unhappy then that's a problem.

    It's different, I suppose, if it gets to the level of personal insults/insults on family members, etc, but if everyone who isn't happy with a thread starts asking for thread removals then you'll have no forum left.

    Only my opinion, anyhow.
  18. gatordowneast
    Offline

    gatordowneast Premium Member

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2007
    Messages:
    11,748
    Likes Received:
    303
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Ratings Received:
    +985
    Honesty, integrity....Bill Clinton says hello.

    Obama has Hope covered.
  19. GatorNorth
    Offline

    GatorNorth Premium Member Premium Member

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2007
    Messages:
    9,406
    Likes Received:
    147
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Location:
    Atlanta
    Ratings Received:
    +589
    Do you think dishonesty and a lack of integrity are reserved for one party?

    The ex-wives of John McCain and Newt Gingrich (2x) would disagree vehemently.

    The problem with America today is our complete inability to exist with someone of different political beliefs. Our leaders lead by sound bites and our governance is non-existent. It's truly sad but don't kid yourself that its not mutual..
  20. Gatorrick22
    Offline

    Gatorrick22 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2007
    Messages:
    32,555
    Likes Received:
    2,455
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Ratings Received:
    +4,274
    Because it's easy to make $h!t up and throw it against the wall and watch how much of it sticks.

Share This Page