I'm trying to lease a new car. Having learned from earlier experiences, I'm trying to negotiate the price of the car first and then go on to the lease using that price as the net capitalized cost. The problem is, no one will give me a quote without me "coming in." I did finally get a price by using USAA's car buying service. I then tried to use that price to get a lower price from other dealers and either they've sent me funny numbers expecting me to be tricked into coming in. Literally they can't even add properly. Or they simply say "come in" so they can use high pressure tactics. I already tried to negotiate with a local dealer in person. After the test drive, he swore he was honest and would give his best price up front. It was absurdly high. We started to haggle and then I left after realizing that even if I could get to the price I wanted, he had already lied to me in the first place by saying we didn't need to negotiate. I don't understand the business. Someone is going to sell me car, so I though they'd actually want to get my business. Why can't car dealerships offer a price and stick to it? Nearly ever other product has a set price with built in profit that's not there to get more out of a person who cracks under pressure.