Why do we want to shorten games?

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    Perhaps from playcall? In the drive following our score to make it 1-score, they passed 4 times, ran 4 times.

    If they were so confident, it would have been runs only, no/
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    Not sure. Perhaps they were passing in order to increase their chances of holding onto the ball (thus sitting on it), not necessarily to score quickly. Really, it's fine. You see it as our D played well and kept us in the game while praying for our O to score and somehow convert a 2-point conversion - just to tie. I see it as them scoring two TD's in their first three possessions and sitting on that lead (ironically exactly what we would've done if the rolls were reversed).
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    I'm just saying that you can't speak definitively to another team's motivations. Neither you nor I know that they felt so confident that we'd not score again.
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    To hit the showers sooner???
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    Wonder how often we were playing from behind in '08 vs. this year. The thinking is that playing from behind may yield more possessions this year with throwing more, while producing less? Not sure...
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    It guess, I'm thinking of it like this: If the roles were reversed and we had only scored 17 points while beating LSU - if history is an indicator on this board - there would've been cries of how/why we didn't score more points. A ton of folks around here would've said, "because we didn't need to."
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    I chose 2008 specifically because we had a loss and two games where we struggled a bit to put up points (Miami and UT). So we had 3 "uncomfortable" games and 3 "comfortable" ones.
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    But I think that would be more apropos for the #2 defense in America than the one that gave up 17 or more points in 5 of their 6 games.
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    You are letting facts get in the way of the narrative over here.
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    It was actually a decent discussion of the strategy of the game. Anything to add or just typical sarcasm?
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    Does good coaching get to 7-6 and losing to the only 2 decent teams we've played this year?

    You cannot claim year 2 is the result of good coaching but years 1 and 3 (so far) are the result of a lack of talent. That dog don't hunt.
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    While I don't buy the theory, it is entirely possible considering the injuries we've sustained.
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    Lots to add but really more fun watching the sky is falling crowd who spend day after day lamenting about the "philosophy" of X head coach. Some would hate X coach if we were 6-0.

    I have no desire to debate such things, I really don't agree it was a "decent discussion of the strategy of the game" either. It's just more gnashing of teeth about why UF did not score 50 and toss a donut.

    Face it great teams loose sometimes. We are better than the media thinks right now, but not as good as we all wish. Losing a top 10 Draft pick on D, a starting WR before the season and how many linemen has something to do about it.

    Weather Pease is in charge or CWM what difference does that make? You think the HBC is gonna change how things are done because a bunch of fans debate it on some message board? Perhaps it helps some here to vent. IDK.

    After 30yrs of Florida Football its just funny because EVERY coach has had his detractors, and every team has bad games. Sometimes you just get beat.
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    Well hell then, let's just shut down every Gator message board on the internet. No need to discuss anything or question anything we are doing ever no matter the results. Just keep repeating the "trust the coaches" mantra to ourselves all day every day. Thanks for making it all so clear.
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    Nope but good coaching puts a battered team in a position to be competitive. How does the dog not hunt? Despite lacking talent on offense we go 11-2? That's the epitome of good coaching. And this year is a result of both a lack of talent and being plagued with injuries. The dog hunts. Lol the dog is a stud.
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    How many drives per game did we average for the rest of the season in 2008?

    Also what was the average time per play for both years?

    I remember our offense not looking too good in the beginning of 2008.
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    Eh, we put up:

    56, 26, 30, 30, 38 and 51 points in that time with a similar # of drives.

    That was the point.
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    Also, if we're hung up on facts, we were down 1 possession with 12:11 to go in the 4th. LSU promptly takes the ball 61 yards to our 14 yard line while using up over 4 minutes and settles for a FG to make it two possessions with 7:58 remaining.

    I'll still stand by my theory that they knew they could move the ball at will on us (evidenced later in the 4th), kill clock and keep our O in check. Even with our pride on the line with 3:51 left, we let them convert a 3rd and 1 by rushing for 4 yards. They went on to drive to our 13 yard line while chewing up the entire 3:51. Not good.
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    I'd be curious how our time per play in 2008 compares to this year.

    To me, the reason the offense doesn't feel explosive is the lack of big plays and our really slow tempo.
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    Thy did not need to sit on their lead, we did it for them.

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