Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by enviroGator, May 24, 2018.
Urban. Next question.
Gary Darnell, he stepped aside to make room for SOS. HAS to be in the discussion!
Urban is not a gator, just coached for a few short years
He was a gator. He was at UF as long as I was but he brought 2 titles and great football. All I did was attend class.
Great coach but he was rented and in his heart was never a gator. Does not bleed o&b
Randy Reese, Andy Brandi, Roland T, Rhonda Faehn, Buster Bishop all have to be in the conversation
Most loved and most accomplished are two different things. Meyer’s overall body of work at Bowling Green, Utah, Florida, and Ohio State is greater than Spurrier’s overall body of work. Who accomplished more at Florida? Depends how much weight you put on crystal balls vs. SEC championships.
Donovan. I dreamed about what Spurrier did for 30 years before he did it. Bear Bryant had predicted it, and I believed it would happen someday. I couldn't even have imagined what Donovan did. Not in my wildest dreams. Its not just the two NCs "with the same team" (as if that "same team" thing matters. How many others have back-to-back titles since he did it? Exactly), its the 20-odd years of almost uninterrupted excellence.
4) Faehn and Holloway (tie)
It matters to me how many schools are seriously supporting (pouring money into) a sport at the time that a coach is building his/her record. Most major universities were sold out to football and basketball at the time of Donovan, Spurrier and Meyer. I'm not sure that most schools are really sold out to anything else even now.
Totally disagree. Winning 11 games a year for three straight years at USC is equal to anything Spurrier accomplished at UF, or Meyer accomplished anywhere. That place is an absolute dump. The town, the stadium, the campus. Its all just putrid.
Urban went 10-2 and 12-0 at Utah. Before he arrived, they were 5-6, 8-4, 4-7.
He went 8-3, 9-3 at Bowling Green. Before he arrived, they were 2-9, 5-6, 5-6.
Like you, I prefer SoS due to my Gator bias and nostalgia for what Steve did at Florida. It's arguable that the HBC was the better Gator coach. It's also arguable, though, that Urban has had a better college coaching career.
Urban is certainly a great coach. I just believe that anything he has accomplished is not better than SOS squeezing 11 wins out of USC for three straight seasons. I was absolutely shocked at what a wasteland that whole scene is up there. Hats off to Muschamp for winning there, but to win 33 games in 3 years there is absolutely amazing.
Spurrier's home record here is absurd... 68-5 over 12 seasons? That doesn't even seem possible.
And more than half of those 5 loses came against teams that won the NC or went undefeated.
1. SOS 2. Billy D. 3. Urban Meyer 4 Mary Wise 5. Ray Graves.
Billy then Spurrier.
If Billy takes a job where his job is to beat us each year I might change this.
Like, perhaps South Carolina?
- Winningest Coach - Randy Reese - Coached to 4 natties and his students had more gold than Mr. T.
- Greatest "Gator" Coach - SOS. Greatest Gator of all time. Period. Player, coach, alum. Whole package.... and funny as hell, with a cherry on top of whipping puppy butt. First SEC title in the most important sport, and first natty against our hated rival. Just can't make this shit up.
- Greatest Coach - Billy D. Took a second rate program and thru willpower, integrity and intelligence, created a first world college hoops program... and didn't cheat. Honestly, if I had to pick one, it would be BD because of what he started with and where he took us, and the class he did it with.
But this underlines the point - many great coaches like Holloway and Meyers, beaten out by guys like BD and SOS.
The evolution of Florida football began with Steve Spurrier. The Gators will always be a football school first and without the success that Steve Spurrier had at UF, then who knows if the Florida football program would be a top program.
It’s the same way with Bobby Bowden and FSU and Bear Bryant at Bama.
Lighten up, Francis
Not to mention the titles we won when he was our coach at The Bolles School before moving to UF!
You forgot the third atrocity that year...Jon Hoke’s defense falling apart in crunch time at Auburn and all night against Tennessee.