Which agencies gets shut down if the government shuts down?

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  1. Gatorrick22
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    Does the government shut down Medicaid, medicare, SS payouts, food stamps, SNAP, Welfare?


    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/09/23/government-shutdown-furloughs-exempt/2855461/
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    Probably not, rick
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    From the USA Today article apparently all needy people will get their food, money and medical needs filled even with a government shut down.
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    Yeah, I started with a question then delved in to see which actual agencies would be shut down. Only 41% of them actually get shut down.
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    For good reason, you can't just stop mandatory spending by not passing a CR or budget. Another reason the "defund" Obamcare thing is mostly a gimmick.
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    Here's some good info from your website.
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    Here's another take on this possible shut down.


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    It's a good question. i am glad you asked.
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    Here's another way to look at it.


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    The EPA effectively shuts down too.


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    Could we start with shutting down the Executive Branch first??:ninja:
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    the HoR fully funded every aspect of the guvment except the aca-so if the guvment gets shut down it is on Reid and thew dem controlled Senate
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    Except they did it in such a manner that the only way the Senate won't be able to strip the ACA exception and go to conference with the House is going to be for Ted Cruz to have to filibuster the House continuing resolution itself.

    They did a fantastic job of coming with a political game where the only way they can win is for a GOP presidential contender to have to filibuster his own party's bill and hang the potential shutdown around his own neck.
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    did they fund the guvment or not Ben
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    Well, you can't really pass a bill to "shutdown" the government, so .... no sure why you're stuck on this. What you can do is pass a bill that may fund the government which has no chance of clearing the other necessary legislative hurdles (i.e. make it to the president's desk) to prevent a shutdown from inaction or failure to reach an agreement, or continue an old one (CR).
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    with some compromise it could pass-it does not permanently defund obamacare just delays it-hell prezBO exempted a lot of his buddies plus Congress-so why not the American people until they can actually figure out the nuances of this bill and the unintended consequences
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    This seems logical. But you know the propaganda machine will be grinding it's heals into this one, especially because Obama-scam will be front and center. It will be dissected and looked at by all of the special interest groups that have a stake in it.
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    Well once the amendment process strips the "defund Obamacare" bit, it will go back to the House. Then the ball is in their court. Either Boehner will hold out, pass a new bill, or pass the amended bill with Democratic votes. Only the third option is certain to prevent a "shutdown."
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    hopefully pubs have enough balls to stick to their guns

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