When did Jeff Driskel become Kestahn Moore

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  1. atlantagator86
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    In my opinion, Zook was a great recruiter, a really good person, an average strategist, but where he was really weak was his leadership.

    I believe the fatal mistake Zook made was being way too close and friendly with the players. He put himself on the same level as the players as opposed to being their leader. And in the end, though I think the players really liked him, he didn't command their respect and he lost control of the team.

    I always found it amazing that what inspired the players was when Zook, their friend, was fired.
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    I agree, Atlanta.

    They respected him as a man, but not as a head coach. I think he is too nice a guy to be a great head coach. It's similar to the military. Not many generals get where they are by being popular with everyone.
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    He was never able to develop any consistency in the program. Great recruiter for sure and he had some fine moments, but you have to do more than that if you're going to survive as a head coach at UF.
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    Ironic that Zook was able to do something that Spurrier could never do, but it took until his last game as a lame duck to do it.
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    Indeed. Spurrier remains the only full time Florida coach not to beat FSU in Tallahassee...

    Graves: 1966, 1968
    Dickey: 1970, 1972, 1974, 1976
    Pell: 1982
    Hall: 1984, 1986
    Spurrier: none
    Zook: 2004
    Meyer: 2006, 2008
    Muschamp: 2012
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    zook would not have beaten f$u in tallahassee in the 90s when they were a top 5 team every year
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    I would take the SOS years again in a heartbeat.
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    Dunno. If he ever had a loaded Florida team when he was there, perhaps he could have done to those FSU teams what he did to LSU at Red Stick in 2003 and Georgia at Jax in 2002. Those teams were every bit as good as the Noles.

    Never say never...

    So would I. but Muschamp went 11-2 his second year, which isn't much removed by Spurrier's 10-2 in 1991. Muschamp, like SOS in 1991, beat several excellent teams, but like SOS in 1991, crapped the bed in THEIR Sugar Bowl game to a Notre Dame team that may or may not have been as good as Louisville.

    Also remember that Spurrier went 9-4 his third year. If Boom duplicates that, he is not really behind.

    I am eager to see what Boom will build. With a little luck, we can see a mid-1980s Florida dynasty...
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    Good points, and if you look at the SEC landscape now v. then, its a MUCH harder league now...

    UGA, USCe and LSU are all at a consistently higher plateau now than they were in the early 90's...

    unfortunately, all those schools are on UF's permanent schedule...

    Bama went undefeated in 1992 and had some other good teams, but overall Bama was not near the 900 lb gorilla it is now..

    On the flip side, UT was at its highest level in the 90's, now its a shadow of its former self...

    But overall, its a tougher league now, and any rational assessment of Muschamp and his performance will take that into account.
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    I say that alot when I chat with people who have this idea that we'll be National Champions by 2015.

    Our best shot to make it to Atlanta is next year.

    Muschamp will need another couple of years to get us on equal footing with Bama, with 2016 possibly being that year.

    Think of it this way; the league is tougher and Muschamp started at UF 3-4 years behind Saban in terms of program strength.
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    If we would have won everyone would have said Driskel had a dang good game except for those few bad plays. But because we lost he gets the blame and his mistakes are amplified times ten.

    The whole offense should take just as much blame for the lose. Everybody on that side had there screw ups
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    agreed--especially the oline, TE and WRs
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    Personally, I am glad our weaknesses were exposed in the Miami game. It's really a meaningless loss. We still have every opportunity to get to the SEC championship game and then anything can happen.
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    This in a nutshell. the only thing the Miami hurt was possibly our MNC chances that are still alive, and without question our pride.
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    If we run the table and beat Alabama in the SEC championship game, there's zero chance we wouldn't be in the MNC game. Nothing changed because of the Miami loss and a win there would have been meaningless as well, considering we'd still have to get past LSU, South Carolina, Georgia, FSU and then Bama. I don't see a scenario where the SEC champion doesn't go to the MNC this year. You could argue that running the table (including Miami) and then dropping one to Bama in the SEC championship game would still be enough to get us a rematch with Alabama if they were #1, but I doubt it. (see last year)
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    Interestingly, we won TWO NCs, two years after he left.

    He left for the Steelers in 94 (i think) and then we won it all in 96 as well. No doubt the guy could recruit.
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    That is the silver lining I am currently subscribing to ...
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    Agreed
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    Not necessarily true. Zook had some good wins on his resume. If he wouldn't have kept losing to teams he should have been beating he would have lasted longer.
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    Zook never squandered a 28 point lead all in the 4th quarter either. Didn't that almost happen to Spurrier again one year against Tennessee? We opened up a 35-0 lead and the game ended with a final score of 35-29? Zook never did that, but then there were the crushing losses like Ole Miss.

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