What's your view on WM's emotions?

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  1. gator34654
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    My brother and I were discussing uf football, and he too is a huge gator fan, we somehow got on the subject of WM's burst of shear anger. My brother who had 3 sons play hs football said WM rage against a player who messes up is over the top and that he would discourage his sons from playing for him.

    I do like a coach who shows some emotions, I could never be a Tony Dungy or a Tom Landry, I'd be more of a SOS throwing my visor a lot. I realize successful coaches come in all packages, you have the Tom Landry's and then you have the Bobby Knights, of course you also have the Woody Hayes who eventually lost it and punched a player on the opposing team.

    Just on emotions alone, is WM over the top? Is this something that needs to be addressed or is it much to do about nothing? Is this OK with the players when he is all raged out or do they realize he's just angry at the moment? Players can't say, "coach is too wild" but most football players have thick skin and they also see a coach that will hug them and praise them for good plays. WM is not one sided, he celebrates with his players and I'm sure the players know he's got their back.

    Take out the wins/losses, just on emotion, what's your take?
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    Football is tough and emotional. Part of the game IMHO.
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    He's already reeled it in enough. It was over the top in '11.
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    I like the fact that he gets pretty amped up, but I think he does it too much. When you do it all the time, it loses something.
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    It's hard to watch.
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    It was sort of cute and funny at first. When you lose eight games, including the Vandy and GS debacles, there are too many questions for Will's emotions not to be considered. I'm not a fan of his chalkboard punching and mouthing off to fans in the stands. In the grand scheme of things, Muschamp is a young coach who allows his lack of maturity to reveal itself to an unacceptable extent imo.
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    I agree with your brother
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    He's an embarrassment to our team....I would not allow one of my son's to play for him.
    You don't see him actually coaching our players, only screaming at them. I think if a recruits parents
    watched him, they may feel the same way. I think he needs to control his emotions and try to teach/coach.
    JMO
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    When you lose control to the point you injure yourself it is too much.
    Also like the end of the GA game when he had a chance to teach his players dicipine with regards to the fight by yanking them off the field instead of ranting at the refs after the game was already decided. But no wonder they were out of control and fighting. Their coach patterns that kind of behaviour.
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    This has to be a joke right? Have you watched, say Jimbo Fisher attacking players on the sideline? Compared to him, Muschamp is a model of rectitude.

    Since I am 2500 miles away I only get to watch him on TV, so maybe I am missing something that these posters are ranting about, but I have watched every game and I do not know why they are carrying on to this extent.

    As Spurffelbowl833 commented his demeanor has changed dramatically since 2011.

    I guess the OP could not think of anything else negative to write about today.
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    He's an intense guy, but I don't see him go overboard laying into players, from what I see on TV.

    I think he needs to pick and choose more with how much he goes off on officials, and try to find some other ways to influence them. Yelling all the time isn't going to help anything, and doesn't present a good image on TV.

    Although it seems we are pretty consistently hammered by SEC officials regardless of who is playing, who is coaching and what is or isn't said to the officials. I figured over time, some of the old time SEC guys would move on and there would be less of the anti-UF bias, but that hasn't been the case. That chit has really gotten old.
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    I agree with your last comment Ofg8r. Wonder what will be next?
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    He is a saint compared to Nick Saban who is the best in the business.

    I love passion, emotion, fire and intensity from head coaches.
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    If we are winning you guys would love it, just like you did last year.

    Fickle bunch to say the least.
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    I have no problem with head coaches going apoplectic from time-to-time, but when it happens every game, it loses its effectiveness. And over time, I believe has a negative effect on a team. Eventually, the kids just tune out the coach that is going ape-s... every few minutes.

    That's exactly what happened with Mike Stoops at Arizona, who was a ticking time bomb every game he coached. It got so bad, it became a true distraction. Questionable call that went against Arizona, and you knew the camera would be on Stoops instantly, and Stoops never failed to put on a show. And the players? In the end, they just didn't seem to care, and Stoops' last Arizona team went 4-8 (Stoops was let go mid-season).

    With today's players, the head guy needs to be more balanced. Go crazy every once in a while, but also be super casual during a practice or two. Just look at Pete Carroll, for example. Most of the practices he has are intense, but he's been known to play huge practical jokes on the players to keep things light. And during games, he's very intense, but not so much that there aren't any lighthearted moments at all.

    In short, when the head guy is always dialed up to 11, it causes the entire team to be out of balance.
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    Mine are firmly rooted in cognitive bias. If we're performing well he comes off like Patton. If we're not, he comes off like a poseur.
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    I forget what game it was this year but there was a field goal attempt and then UF called a timeout. They went to a commercial break but just before they showed Willy going off on the kicker. I was thinking that's great!!!! Lo and behold he shanked it.
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    Think of it as a parent of a kid who has played peewee ball. You see plenty of these tizzy fits. You don't expect to see it in college. We are almost grown up by this time and I would expect the hc to act accordingly.
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    Damn, lose 8 games and there is nothing you can do right I guess. If we had another 11-2 season this past year many of the detractors would be lauding his intensity. Winning cures all. I'm just waiting for the post criticizing the type of socks the man wears.
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    He went off on the kicker (think it was Hardin) because he was taking too long to set up for the kick, forcing the TO. Merely a microcosm of our season.

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