What the hell with these people "The Knockout Game"

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  1. DaveFla

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    Who is claiming the incidence of this violence is increasing?
  2. gatorman_07732

    gatorman_07732 Well-Known Member

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    Since the media hasn't covered this before now, shame on them.
  3. asuragator

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    If dealing with facts is cute, then my comments were the cutest. The point is that you are using some recent news to argue it is a growing trend when what you need is objective evidence.
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  4. asuragator

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    You can go back through this thread yourself to find them. They are there.
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  5. gatorman_07732

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  6. DaveFla

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    Then they should be really, REALLY easy for you to go back and point them out to me...

    I'll wait..... (Theme from Jeopardy!)
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    In a quick perusal, I found at least five instances of people claiming it's growing or spreading. But really, I have no interest in pointing out to you something you, as a big boy, can do on your very own...REALLY easily, Alex. Besides, I don't want to call these folks out.
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  8. asuragator

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    And as of November 17, 2013 in NYC there have been a reported 17,772 aggravated assaults (felony) and 39,113 simple assaults (misdemeanors) for a total of 56,885 reported assaults in 2013.
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  9. DaveFla

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    IOW, you can't.

    Thanks.
  10. asuragator

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    Actually I could. I just PM'd you since you are too lazy to go look it up yourself but continue to insist with your nonsense.
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  11. DaveFla

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    I

    I don't read PMs...

    You got nothing? One would think that you would be eager to back up your claim... That is, if you could.
  12. asuragator

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    "I don't read PMs..."

    What a weak response

    I backed up my claims to you; it's your choice not to look at the pm
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    That has nothing to do with the topic at hand, just your attempt to dilute the issue. The people of Brooklyn that it was a serious enough problem to speak out on the matter.
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    The Daily News couldn't confirm that the most recent case was part of this game, yet you had no problem repeating the DN headline. But if you read the very first sentence of the article, you'll find this gem (my bold):

    In other words, it is unsubstantiated as knockout game. So no, I wasn't diluting anything. Rather, I have been providing sorely needed context so you don't continue hyping something that is likely more media driven than anything else.

    Your myopic focus on the alleged 10 in NYC which you read about in the news leads you to ignore the other 56,875 assaults that have occurred thus far, 17,772 of which were felony aggravated assaults. Even accepting--hypothetically--that the 10 were knockout game, that would account for .0018% of all assaults.
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    Well let's see, she wasn't robbed but just knocked out with a blow to the back of the head. ok ok you win. jdr, your playing a numbers game that was never part of my argument, I don't know why you persist.
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    There is a lot of serious crime in NYC, much of it random, but because the media tends toward sensationalism, many people mistakenly come to believe that this is game is some rampant trend, when it hasn't proven itself to be.

    I provided you some hard numbers that place the alleged ten in NYC in context, yet you accuse me of diluting the issue. But what is really happening is that you are playing the role of town crier, hyping sensationalized headlines that further perpetuates a misguided understanding.

    And how is it that providing some data not part of the discussion?
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    These people in Brooklyn did not congregate because of media sensationalism. It's was because they saw a problem in their community.
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    Maybe they didn't, maybe they did. I don't know where they get their information.
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    Then they should be really, REALLY easy for you to go back and point them out to me...
    I'll wait..... (Theme from Jeopardy!)

    BZZZZZZ.....jdr.......You didn't put that in the form of a question. :):)

    I'll take Knockout game for $1000.
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    As I'm feeling charitable this morning, let's make it a little easier for lazy DaveFla. gatorman 07732 raised the thread topic. I was the first on the thread that commented the attacks were escalating per media reports. The information I posted in my response was reasonably disputed by JDR. At that time I chose not to continue participating in the thread but others in posts after mine made similar assertions to the one made by me. If DaveFla had stayed current with the thread he would know who those individuals were. It is unreasonable for him to expect JDR to list them for DF's convenience.

    When I want to know something I look it up. Why does DF feel entitled to having this information handed to him when he doesn't want to make the effort to find it himself. And not reading PM's? The risibility factor is high with that claim.
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