What is your argument to convince a Repubilcan to vote Dem

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    no, conservatives may stand for that, but not the Republican Party
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    from a political standpoint the only angle I could say with a straight face for one to vote Democrat is that with the D party, at least you get an attempt at the socially liberal side of libertarianism, with the R party, you get neither fiscal responsibility or social liberalism.
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    I'm a lib...and recognize that ultra-lib wing has indeed promoted and gotten signed into law many laws that 'cater' to minorities. And that such catering is wrong and detrimental to both the minorities and the country.

    and, iMO, the ultra con wing of GOP over the years and in various area of the country has promoted and gotten signed into law many laws that are designed to actively keep minorities from equal rights. A law promoted by utlra right in a state would permit the use of some state licenses(hunting, boat, etc) without photo ID to be used as ID for voter registration or to vote on Election Day and also refused to allow state issued photo ID's of state employees to be used as ID on Election Day. If that isn't discriminatory what is. Vast majority of the non phot state license approved for ID are predominantly whites while the number of state employees with state issued photo ID are minorities(janitors, guards, office workers, kitchen, etc doing low to moderate paying jobs).

    The whole GOP stance of denying women equal pay for equal work is also discriminatory.

    A doctor on a message board stating he was Republican and had never seen such discrimination in the workplace did as I suggested...Ask around the hospitals in which you have privileges and ask nurses if male and female nurses get paid for doing the same job(nurses with same education level, same experience, same job performance, etc and typically the male gets paid more). The regulation by most compnaies to make it a major job violation for employees to compare how much much they make per hour was a means for companies to conceal that there was workplace discrimination occurring. Seems like companies were regulating employees from practicing free speech with each other.
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    who was running congress while Clinton was in office? who was running it under Bush? It's hilarious how many people just pust such total absolute nonsense.

    Also the last president that actually had a true surplus was Jackson......

    your total absolute nonsense that Clinton had a surplus is laughable

    http://quaap.com/D/clinton-surplus-factcheck.html
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    so the current deficit is the fault of the Republican Congress and not Obama's at all?
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    the argument is simple.

    you're voting for a democrat anyway, might as well vote for the real thing.
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    ding, ding, ding....

    we have a winner.
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    This is such a steaming pile of horse s...

    The leader of your party (our president) went to CHICAGO upon graduation to learn politics.


    Your omniscience and self-righteousness are typical of democrats. You guys seem to love the smell of your own farts. I mean honestly, do you really believe what you write or is this all part of reenforcing the narrative?


    The ONLY reason why I vote republican (as a libertarian) is that between the two parties at least with the republicans I find genuine duplicity.

    with democrats, they lie on their lies and distort everything they can all the time. anything to get votes. The list of examples are endless.

    starting with the classic "the democrat party is the party of the common man"

    Think about it, if the republicans are as you say "pushing away" voters. could it be on the grounds of adhering to ideology and not selling out strictly for powers sake?

    so at the end of the day when I vote. I hold my nose and check the R. Knowing that we're screwed either way. When a democrat votes, he honestly is deluded enough to think he did the right thing and is making the world a better place.
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    "Strive to refrain from making personal attacks"

    LOL [/thread]
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    :laugh::laugh::laugh:

    Your party forgot to tell the hater in the WH. The one who publicly calls the Republicans "our enemies," and totally discredits your assertion that the Dem party is the party that "refrains from personal attacks."

    http://www.examiner.com/article/obama-hate-speech-obama-s-own-words


    It does take both sides to work together, but if you mean the the Right has to capitulate to the Leftists side and embrace a way of life and governance that enslaves us citizens to the government... than that will never happen.

    The Pubs love freedom from big government and the Dems want to push big government on all of us. It's those are two fundamentally huge differences that will never be reconciled.
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    Interesting post but seems backward to me. Democrats have the majority of registered voters, just need to keep them and get them out to vote when the time comes. Its the Republicans that need to convert the Democrats and independents if they want to get back on top. So far they aren't doing a very good job of that.

    Either way nobody in this forum is converting so why bother trying.
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    If the pubs believe that the only proper place for government is its own suicide, than there can be no cooperation.
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    The authoritarian left strikes again.
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    That's pretty much it. :laugh:

    Give me my free sh*t! lol
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    No one I know believes that.

    We want less taxes and less involvement... smaller government. We need to privatize, or let the individual states take control of their entitlements, and get the fed out of the way. Or reduce the fed to doling out the cash for states to take care of it's own resident citizens.

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