What if Non-Islamics Call for a Crusade?

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    "Ah, yes. Our way or everlasting hell. Interesting choice"

    care to name any religions that don't have that attitude?

    And isn't that attitude used by some to justify holy wars.

    funny thing is, isn't it the precept of most religions(that believe in heaven and hell) that it is ultimately God, not human religious leaders(even those who are designated by the religion to be the mouthpiece of God), who decides who is admitted to heaven and who goes to hell
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    In your hasty comparison, you failed to notice that Christians will leave the individual to their choice about the matter, while the Muslim jihadists want to send you there - right now - thinking they are earning imaginary kudos for doing so from their false god.
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    There are now radical Buddhists that are killing Muslims in Burma. The Hindu is already fighting the Muslim in Kashmir. China has seen Muslims get killed there as well.

    And of course, the biggest killer of Muslims are other Muslims.

    Not sure why we would have to do more than watch them bite off more than they can chew.
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    Would this be the 10th crusade? I may have lost count. Anyway, Hell Yes! I'm all for more violence in the name of religion.
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    So what would be the desired endstate of this anti-islamic holy crusade? The elimination of all muslims? Creating a secondary rights status for muslims combined with restricting the movement and location where muslims can live? Some kind of massive brainwashing program to eliminate the islamic religion? Some kind of terror inducing selected strikes targetting muslims or islamic locations to punish any actual or perceived islamic aggression?

    Not to criticize the presentation of a general "crusade" but without details its the same as declaring a war without having any actual goal to your military action. Fighting for the sake of fighting rather than having an "objective".
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    Thanks for the heads up. I'll look deeper into it. Would it be fair to say that "early" Islam was not aggressively spreading the faith by the sword as later Mohammad days?
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    As the US becomes more oil independent and quits sending dollars for oil to the middle east the funding for these Islamic terrorists will dry up. It will never go away but it will hurt them more than other things we have done.
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    Again you could not resist to turn it into a left versus right debate.
    Nice of you to acknowledge that there are nut jobs on the left, just wonder why you need to point out just the nut jobs on the right. Fair and Balance? Not
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    I am not calling for a Crusade.
    I am concerned that we could be headed that way.
    In my opinion there will be a lot of innocents on both sides that will be harmed or killed.
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    I agree with you that in the beginning Islam was a religion of peace.
    However with in fifty years of the birth of Islam forced conversion, submission, or death was their tool to advance their political and geographic boundaries.
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    If you want to view it that way then you must consider that it will be God who judges and hands out the consequences. We will not be in on that process. For all we know and can hope for is that God will be merciful and fair. In other words none of know what God will do or not do to the non believers of Christianity.
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    first you have to define "we".

    It will be started for "us". Us is defined as everybody.
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    or to the believers
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    Definition of a crying shame.

    Busload of Jihadist going over a cliff with two empty seats...
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    That's what I was thinking. For every Muslim who kills some Christian with a kitchen knife, we probably kill 100 Muslims with conventional military weapons. It might not be a "Crusade", but it's getting the job done none the less.

    I think the OP wants to really know if Christians would be willing to engage in religious genocide against Islam, because that's the only way you're going to get rid of every crazy person who happens to be an extremist Muslim.
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    that's just incredibly stupid and incredibly sad.
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    And that's simply false.

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