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What if everything we’ve come to think of as American is predicated on a coincidence?

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    Some sobering thoughts.

    nymag.com

    It's long, but worth reading.
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    And maybe a Rubik's cube can magically re-arrange itself into all same color sides too.
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    if-if's and buts were candy and nuts everyday would be Christmas
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    Is there anything from the article that you specifically disagree with?
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    Gordon's
    is somewhat misleading. especially when you consider that something akin to it occurred with the technology boom related to computers that occurred 20+ years ago.


    IMO---you can expect industrial revolutions to occur in the future. The problem is---there is no way of predicting when exactly they'll occur since they tend to arise when there is a sudden surge related to a scientific/technological discovery. So to count on a industrial revolution to solve an economic crisis, etc is foolhardy.
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    just your premise phil

    What if everything we’ve come to think of as American is predicated on a coincidence?
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    If my aunt had balls, she would be my uncle
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    So you are saying that you didn't read the article?

    How can you comment intelligently on the reasoning for a thesis when you don't know either the thesis or the supporting reasons?

    Three important things helped the US to be the superpower in the world. The original industrial revolution starting around 1750, and the second industrial revolution starting around 1870. Throw in two world wars that destroyed Europe, but left us untouched and profiting, and you have the secret to our success. Having abundant natural resources and the Protestant work ethic allowed us to take advantage of those events, but without those events, would we really be doing any better than the rest of the civilized world?

    Now that the rest of the world is catching up, how will we deal with it?

    Robert Gordon has two ideas on what will happen, both quoted above.
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    I disagreed with your title-doubt reading the article would change my feelings-however, I did read the article
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    Not my title, that was the editors title (people used to bust my chops for editorializing thread titles, now they are busting me for not editorializing thread titles :) )

    Having read the article, what did you think of his ideas on the importance of our timing in becoming a country and what it may mean for our future?
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    I don't doubt that, because it's the Liberals that refuse to learn from history's lessons... They continue the repeat the mistakes of the past.
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    I did read the article. And I will say again, if my aunt had balls, she would be my uncle?

    One could argue that the invention of the personal computer was as impactfull to economies as the first or second industrial revolution.

    I would argue that the industrial revolutions were generated as much by changes in property ownerships as anything. People are endlessly inventive and when they are able to enjoy the fruits of their imagination and hard works, the prosperity ensues.

    This article does a better job of explaining why prosperity grew than the one philnotfil proffered.

    Neuroscientist Steven Pinker on the triumph of peace and prosperity over death and destruction

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