We wanted a pro style Offense and we got one

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  1. Matthanuf06
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    If an offensive system requires tons of first rounders to be effective then the system is terrible. Very few teams, if any, are that loaded on offense.

    We are about the 100th best offense in the land. Are you telling me our year in year out top classes were that big of busts?
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    Noting that our Offense has looked bad is not freaking out. Its acknowledging reality. I'm not ready to say fire him but....this is serious. and although it will be blasphemy here, Ron Zook was far from the worst we've had. Just look at the numbers. Muschamp's record vs rivals is worse thus far.

    Meyer won big in his first couple years at Bowling Green, Utah and UF also. Good coaches don't need forever to get it going. We should be significantly better than this on Offense by year 3 which we're in right now. I had questions about hiring Pease. It seemed to work out - ugly but effective for the most part - last year but then....this again? Another display to rival our very worst from last year only this time against a much lesser Defense and yet another loss to a bitter rival and one we had massively outgunned at that?

    Yeah the natives are gonna get restless over that.
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    Big, physical, fast receivers.

    You mean like Wes Welker?
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    Yep it's a different game today. Coaches are able to and expected to turn programs around in a year or two tops. Star freshman get on the field and produce. If we can't accomplish these things we are falling behind.

    Not only is our offense poor. We can't even execute properly. That is coaching. Miami may not be as talented but they executed infinitely better than we did.
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    So once that happens there will be year after year of unparallelled success?

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    slants can be run by anybody, and fades/back shoulder throws aren't restricted to big guys either (although I'll admit big guys present easier targets on those). We're not stacked, but we have enough talent at WR to make it work - I heard a lot of people saying recently "we can't create big plays because we don't have anybody who can run a deep route" and then lo and behold, there's Patton catching a bomb on a skinny post today. The WRs are perfectly capable of making plays if they're given the opportunity.
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    That was an AMAZING catch by him too. He completely re-adjusted his route and made a play on that ball. Our WRs can beat 1-1 coverage if we actually believed in them and put more effort into making it work.
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    Yep. It's really not as difficult as we make it out to be
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    It isn't the car (see: offense) folks, it's the driver (Driskel). I've said all year if he hasn't gotten it by now he will never get it and he hasn't got it. I like the Jets analogy because it fits. We've got Mark Sanchez.

    I don't mean this as anything personal against Driskel. He's got talent, he's a good runner but he is not a natural passer and it shows both in his execution and in the "dumbed down" plays they give him. I'm not sure that he wasn't just ruined by the first two years here, but IMO he's a guy that will always have to be managed and will never bring championships.
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    The Jets is a great comp. Ryan and Will are very similar. Great defensive guys that want their offense to get out of the way.
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    A couple more years?

    Saban went 6-6 his first year at Bama....then 12-0.

    I'm tired of the excuses. I'm sure a lot of other fans are too.

    That was a bastardization of coaching today. The 2-point conversion makes me questione everything he's done since he's been here. And him saying, "I'd do it again." makes me seriously question whatever the hell he's doing.

    I know it's not the end of the world...but the fact is, this team/offense has not improved one bit since last season. Pease is now a questionable hire (or our "talent" has been poorly evaluated)....and we could lose to, literally, ANY team on our schedule (see Lousiana-Lafayette 2012 game if you don't think so)....
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    Anybody huh? Ok
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    That explains why we stopped running those plays when Jordan Reed went to the NFL, oh, wait, never mind.
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    We run that stupid inverted pistol and zone read to really be considered "pro style". Bama runs that ZERO.... (yes, they are the gold standard and run a true "pro style").

    Also, Driskell was NOT the number 1 prospect at qb. He was a top 3 qb prospect running zone read or spread offense. Alas, that's not entirely what we do.

    Other than that, I agree with you for the most part......
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    Can't wait for the good laugh when Halapio is back and we see the Gators version of the "Butt Fumble".
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    I'll guarantee you that in Spurrier's 3rd season the offense wasn't ranked above the top 100.
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    Thank you for bringing a smile back to my face.
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    before hiring Pease didn't we look hard at Al Borgess who ended up at Mich? Borgess, who runs a pro style offense.
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    What?

    Slants require big receivers?
    Really?

    Just look at today's NCAA headlines

    Michigan's Gardner 5 TDs
    Georgia's Murray 4 TDs
    TAMU Manziel 3TDs 426 yds
    Louisville Bridgewater 4TDs 397 yds

    Driskel is the "problem" with the offense


    He's an improvement over Brantley (who wouldn't be?) but not adequate to win
    a national championship unless we can block like Bama...

    ...which we can't.

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