Ways to stop college players from taking money from agents and others

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    Ways to stop college players from taking money from agents and others...

    I can only think of one. If a player takes money in college, he can never play in the NFL.
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    If anybody is found to have taken money under the table in college, instant ineligibility. If they can make an NFL roster, pay them $7.25 an hour their rookie years, practice, meetings, and game time only. Then they can get a real contract starting their second year. To get the NFLPA to play along and prevent the owners from pocketing the money, arbitrate what the player would/should have been paid for his rookie year had he not cheated in college and make the owners invest the money in compensation funds for former players who suffer lifelong disabilities.
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    That actually makes sense. But teams that want a great player will likely just promise the player a guaranteed double-pay the second year to make up for the loss. And he'd make a good bit from sponsors if he was that good.

    Complicated issue.
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    It's even easier than that - eliminate the rule that a player must be 3 years removed to play in the NFL.

    You won't have people going to college that don't want to go to college.
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    How do you stop anyone from doing anything? Give them something they would hate losing. If they take money it means instant ineligibility and zero chances at the NFL.
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    But that's kind of the system now.

    The only thing you could do to facilitate that is to remove the burden of proof. I don't think I'm comfortable giving the NCAA power to say someone took money without proof.
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    Or how about allowing them to make money OUTSIDE of the program off of their own name. The university is not involved, no issues with Title IX. Let them do commercials and or sign autographs. Put a "salary cap" in place.
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    So in other words, no longer be amateurs.
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    Hit the university's endowment for each infraction

    Think monitoring will improve?

    :yes:


    The university wouldn't allow coaches to be so "rogue" if it was costing them $1 million per infraction out of their pockets.

    Go ask Penn St.
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    That ship has sailed...have you checked out the team sports in the Olympics lately?

    It's already legal in the NCAA to be a pro in one sport while maintaining eligibility in another.

    The colleges and the NCAA makes millions off the "numbers" of popular athletes, not to mention gameday, sponsor and TV income. A scholly and laundry money doesn't cut it anymore.
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    agreed. that way people can't cry about the school paying them and the whole "if you pay them, then you have to pay the swim team, marching band, etc."

    let the johnny footballs and teddy bridgewaters of the world get a couple stacks for holding day-long autograph sessions during the offseason, their schools are banking big time off their names, let them get a piece of the pie, too.
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    The NCAA has no authority / jurisdiction over the NFL nor will you get any owner with a sane brain cell to agree to such. I doubt the NCAA would ever be authorized to fine colleges or hit their endownment fund (pretty sure that would be illegal) for anything. The NCAA is out of control and has no credibility. I would just as soon have Bubba, who is serving life in prison, determine what is fair punishment.

    IMO, If you take money, your eligibility is forever revoked. Period. As part of scholarship agreement, make the athlete reimburse every dime. School could remove every award, mention of athlete forever.

    For some, I can't really blame them. A student with zero money in college is just not feasible.
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    Nobody has suggested they do. But the two organizations have an arrangement, and it was the NCAA's work that led to the 3-years-out-of-high-school deal we have now.
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    This was a pretty strong suggestion. The only way they would have zero chance at the NFL is if the NFL put that rule in place at the behest of the NCAA.
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    Which is what they've done in the past, so ...
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    Or athletic entrepreneurs. I'm with Tilly. Don't pay college kids beyond the scholarship, Pell grants, meals, housing, tutoring, apparel, etc. But do allow them to make $ off their "brand" if they are able. As for agent repellent, there's no way you can prevent a man from making a living after college just because he was fronted $ by an agent. I think the real penalties should be assessed against the agents, who are aggressively breaking the rules. If there is a licensing body for agents, they should lose their license for a couple years. Of course, the problem is that the NCAA has no governance over the NFL or agents. They should, however, be the target for punishment.
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    Good idea, but if that's done then they will go play elsewhere make more than 7.25 an hr (cfl, afl) then switch to nfl after a year.
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    Such rules exist on a state-by-state level, but not nation-wide.
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    THIS IS ALMOST THE MOST ABSURD THING IVE EVER HEARD. The 1st being SWTbow. Why would you deny someone employment for trying to recieve paynent for their skills that are currently being compensated and controlled by a monopoly? The players should be paid. The top teams should break off and end this farce known as amateur sports.
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    If these kids are worth so much then have them go play in their own league. Oh that's right...without the jersey or school nobody really cares about them.

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