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Discussion in 'Nuttin' but Net' started by gatorchamps0607, Jan 20, 2014.
There's little chance that Walker stays at UF for all 4 years so the question is moot.
I suppose it was more of an academic than a rhetorical question. But, yes, moot with regard to Walker.
Agree or disagree, I think Brockway makes an interesting point:
I happen to agree and think that if this situation shows a lack of justice, then someone needs to be publicly advocating for this kid and making the injustice apparent. IMO we can't judge the NCAA based on what has become known about Walker's case.
Agree. UF should be advocating for CW if the facts are known, and we have a clear understanding that CW should be back.
My reading indicates that you are a redshirt freshman after an academic reshirt, since the article specifically states that the player may take a later injury redshirt.
Good way to get agree rep points, REM.
By the way, I sent you a PM, which this new website doesn't make extremely clear to the recipient.
unless he turns out to be Kenny Boynton or Patric Young, who nobody ever thought would be here for their senior seasons
UF can not disclose anything relating to the status of the student/athlete. Bill has said in the past that coaches sign agreements with NCAA not to discuss there situations. Not sure what you expect UF to do.
I think Walker has the upside that will make him a lottery pick faster than them probably. That size and leaping ability is very, very rare. Everyone knew he had a lot of rawness to him yet he still was top ten in the best high school class in a very long time. Look at the guys he was ranked around in terms of bigs..Gordon, parker, Randle, etc..he was put in that category basically despite being far more raw than any of them because he has things you can't teach. His ranking was purely based on potential. I doubt if he gets any play time at all this year a team wouldn't take a chance on him late first round because of the possibilities of a monster with that arm span and athletic ability.
There is no such thing as a redshirt other than a medical one. You get 5 years to play 4 years of eligibility unless you get that aforementioned medical one.
Back to the NCAA bashing. They are legitimatized by the participating universities and their representation (ie, their Presidents and ADs). No one is being held hostage by them. If there were some real incompetencies of an egregious nature I think you would see some of the power conferences deciding to do something different.
And I would agree that there is a LOT of things not being said. That seems to be pretty damning IMO.
From: University of Florida
Date: January 24, 2014
Subj: Chris Walker
To Whom It May Concern:
This is to let you know that the University of Florida has decided to play Chris Walker starting with the Tennessee game on January 25, 2014 at 4 PM EST. If you would like to render a final decision on Chris Walker's eligibility status before the tipoff of the game, please do. Otherwise, the University of Florida has admitted Chris Walker, sat him out for 9 games, and now plans to move forward in the absence of NCAA decision making on this situation.
Kevin brockway tweet as of 5 min ago.
No change on Chris walker for UT per billy d.
Those ******* ******* ******** suck.
But he has spoken about this already. He's said there is still a decision to be made and he's even talked about the kind of issues in play by saying they were related to the academic clearing house. I think I remember that right. He probably knew and knows differently, but that's technically speaking about it from my perspective.
I don't know of things they have to sign or whatever. But I do know what I've seen in other cases. Kanter is a good example. Love him or hate him, in Kanter's case, I think Cal did a good job of advocating for him. I can't imagine he'd be able to say things that Billy couldn't. Here are some examples just from one article written months prior to Kanter's ruling.
I'm not suggesting Billy say stuff about specific interactions with the NCAA, just advocate Walker's side of the story a little more. Obviously this is only worth doing if his side helps his case though.
And there is pretty regular discussion of the power conferences deciding to do something different. But logistically, whatever that is, and who is involved would have to be well planned out, first.
In the meantime, we still have an NCAA that's holding a student athlete hostage. They should say something. Even if that something is that they believe he has definitely earned "N games suspension" but it could be more based on continuing investigations.
But if it turns out he did something that is miniscule by comparison to what Manziel did (for instance), and only missed a half a game for, then this whole thing is a giant cluster function that there is no excuse for. And TBH, I'll be extremely surprised if he did anything remotely comparable to signing several thousand items to be auctioned off.
Good point. But, if you take a "normal" redshirt - that is, sit out your freshman year just because you're not ready and/or needed - you aren't normally guaranteed to get a 6th year for injury are you? although I'm not sure they (injury redshirts for a 6th year) are ever denied for a legit early-season injury. Or, maybe I'm just splitting hairs to avoid saying I was wrong.....
Address the letter to "You Bastids"
Mark my words, were he a dukie or kitty, he would be playing now.
As I understand it, this kid is really, really poor and essentially has no family. So he must have done something really really awful, like take $1600 from someone to buy food for himself. These 6'10" teenagers have truly awful habits when it comes to eating and should be taught to control themselves, that's what the NCAA is for after all, to help athletes. We know he must have done something awful because for taking $1500 you get suspended nine games but he must have done something even worse as he is being held out longer than that. But Billy says that CW has been completely straight with him and we know Billy wouldn't take anyone who was seriously morally depraved. So what the NCAA has accomplished is to damage a young man and prevent the college fans from seeing him play. But because UF admitted him (all praises to UF) he is at least getting to bond with some other kids and getting some preparation for the life he will have in a few months when he is taken in the first round of the NBA draft. If he had been allowed to play if might have gotten him a million or two more but somehow I don't think that matters to a kid who needed money to buy food. Have I got this right? If I have, what's the point?