Wal-Mart says it will pull out of D.C. plans should city mandate ‘living wage’

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    Hilarious. Im missing one side of the equation.
    Appreciate the humor you bring.

    You think someone who starts up a large manufacturing firm is poor?
    Wow.
    Man, banks are really nice. Most bankers I know would require a pretty sick net worth to bankroll a manufacturing firm, especially one in which dozens of people would be hired.
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    Ever heard of venture capital?
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    And why does that happen? Has Wal-Mart developed a superior business model? Isn't that what competition is all about?

    But it your mind, it's still OK if other businesses open in the neighborhood, just not if their too big...
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    Can't too big become too powerful and eliminate competition? Isn't that what's happened with Walmart like business models?
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    This thread is proof we need to make economics a core topic in our education system.

    Look this isn't really up for debate. Walmart is a net positive to the economy. Granted it shouldn't even matter as market forces should dictate its success or failure.

    But it is without a doubt a net positive. If you want our economy to grow, society to advance, and all the goodies of net positive GDP impact you should be a fan of Walmart.

    Note I said NET. Is Walmart great for everyone? No. It's clearly not good for the mom and pop general store across the street. But so what?

    Anytime you make a choice in a competitive market you are hurting someone. Dinner at the pizza joint? Well that hurts the local Mexican place.
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    How unbelievably absurd. Most charities are conservative based and supported organizations. Don't confuse socialism and Marxism with caring for kids. It is shocking how misinformed and baseless your accusations are. You sound like a socialist propaganda leaflet.
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    Absurd and shocking? Please. How can you read ric's comments and say that??? Seriously. That's the kind of "conservative" I'm talking about. I know dozens of them with the same "abusrd and shocking" attitude.........the poor are horribly unworthy "moochers", don't let them procreate, not entitled to any help at all, etc.
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    A frustrated D.C. could not be reached for comment.
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    Are you under the impression that being poor stops people, retarded or otherwise, from breeding? From what I can see it's the exact opposite. Some of the poorest people I know have the most children and they're even "conservatives" in the panhandle of Florida.
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    Right-wingers don't like downtowns with small independent businesses. They like monstrous strip malls full of chains designed to appeal to the lowest common denominator. That's what makes America #1!
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    Jeff, the first part of your post was accurate. If you honestly believe what you just wrote about conservatives, you need to get out more. Almost every survey will show those that lean right are far more generous with their personal treasure to their churches, charities, schools etc. Libbies are the least generous with their personal funds but they will spend taxpayers $s faster than government can confiscate. Liberal poster boys like Biden and Gore were likely embarrassed when their personal tax returns were released when they were running for VP. And they are the norm.

    Liberal policies of giving people everything they need to survive, sounds great. However, if these policies were so great, why is the % living in poverty higher today than when LBJ launched his war on poverty in the mid 60s? I think most conservatives believe that it is better for local charities to fill the needs of the majority of the poor, rather than National Government. And it is far better policy to teach people to fend for themselves through jobs and employment, than to just provide handouts.
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    Walmart has eliminated competition? Hmmm, lets see there is Target, Dollar, Dollar General, Big Lots, BJs, Costco, K-Mart, Factory Stores, Outlet Malls and even Sams. And that is off the top of my head. Mom and Pops have gone out of business and that is unfortunate. But the world changed...as did retailing.
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    First, I am aware that the new mantra in business is to acquire the "too big to fail" label so that you can be a little bit more "creative" than your competition. But trying to stiff arm companies in this environment is really silly.

    Maybe they should ask the recently laid off Hostess workers what constitutes a "living wage."
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    Actually true right wingers have no preference. I don't think you understand what "free market" is. And you seem to get the real right wing economic proponents mixed up with the government corporatists.

    What I do not want is Uncle Sam (aka you and I) to subsidize Walmart OR subsidize the mom and pops like you want. The government should have zero role.

    If Uncle Sam gets out of the way the end result is simple. The community and economy wins. Does that mean Walmart wins or the local general store? The truth is it shouldn't matter.
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    Right-wingers like people to get the economic infrastructure they choose through their support. I personally prefer downtowns with small businesses; America at large though clearly does not. And they are free not to. Who the hell am I to manipulate the political power to try to force them back the other way?
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    Yeah
    Point?
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    why do employees of walmart settle for lower wages? just quit and take jobs with companies that pay a lot more---very simple. they are not forced to work at walmart---it's a free market!!!
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    Yeah, because there are a wealth of better opportunities out there.
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    So no or worse opportunities is better than Walmart?
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    Force Walmart to pay living wages. Their CEO will have to survive with 2 yachts instead of 3.

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