Wal-Mart says it will pull out of D.C. plans should city mandate ‘living wage’

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    It's a lot easier for the locals to shake down a mom & pop store than a Walmart.
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    I think it depends on how you look at it. They have a large income disparity but it's because of the top half being high, the bottom fifth is average for a big city.

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    One would have thought that this legislation could have waited until Walmart had built and stocked the new stores. Sounds like some connected folks didn't want Walmart coming into DC.
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    Great. I hope they take all the money they earned and close up shop.
    Because, if that happened, the bed wetting liberals would ball and flail like newborn babies.
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    Or certain well-placed individuals crafted legislation to let Wal-Mart get out of the three stores they didn't really want in the first place. Six in something like 70 square miles? Sounded a little sketchy from the start, IMO.
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    We've managed without food-stamps, welfare, Social Security and dozens of federal agencies in out past... that are designed to suck more money from the taxpaying citizens creating a ready and willing underclass that is expecting more for nothing... a lazy freeloading class of ingrates that continually demand more freebees.

    I know we can manage without all of that as well as without Walmart. :wink:
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    This is total B.S.

    Walmart does not make products. They sell the same products as others that most people need at lower prices; and most people shop there even if they do not admit it.

    What is with the liberals hate of that store? Nevermind. We already know the answer.
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    I know, right. The communists think they should dictate which retail business should be allowed to do business. Where are these commies getting that asinine idea from? One guess... he used to be a community extortionist.
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    The free market chooses walmart. It chooses value. Some people do not like it. And yes they have politically motivated socialistic tendencies In their value.system. Their straw man is the mom and pop store victimization.

    People choose to work at walmart. Many are proud to work there. They choose to shop there. Where there is a walmart you almost universally find lower prices at other stores as a result. The other stores are still in business. They compete as they should. The winner is the consumer and the people who have jobs who would not otherwise have them. Now 1800.people in DC won't have the jobs and the people of DC will continue to pay prenium prices at other stores.

    Additionally there are other choices. I do not like the walmart experience but I shop there because I prefer the experience at the cash resister it offers over other places and I do not mean the lines. When I want a different experience I goto Publix and pay more. To each his own but socialists do not want you to have a choice and make villains out of companies they do not like.
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    Well said... repped.
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    Thanks.
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    Don't you know ky...libbies think they know better what you or your family need, who you should do business with and how much you should pay.

    You are exactly right, shop at Walmart if you wish. If you don't like them, go elsewhere. Libbies would prefer we not have that choice. Interesting isn't it. Free choice to kill the unborn but no choice of whether to buy a box of cereal or paper towels at Walmart.
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    Excellent points. But too logical for libbies. They can't think. They "feel".
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    Hopefully you gest. We survived without penicillin. We survived without the automobile. We survived without electricity. We survived without air travel. We survived without the microwave. We survived without the television, VCR, DVR, Blueray. We survived without artificial knees, hips and shoulders. And women survived without Victoria's Secret, Pink and other brands. But each has given us choice, flexibility, lifestyle and retailers like Sears, K-Mart, Walmart, Target, Costco, Sams have given consumers choices.

    You don't like it...don't shop there. You don't like a product...don't buy it. But for any government, whether local, state or federal to pass laws, ordinances, legislation so blatantly discriminating against one business (they ain't a topless joint) is the height of STUPIDITY. Guess we should not be surprised in a democratically controlled city?
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    Actually it shouldn't be a matter of "lobbying". That's precisely the problem with our government. Too much power, especially in the hands of whomever holds the dollars, the key vote, or the special interest groups.

    Your quote should read.

    I welcome Walmart to enter our neighborhood, but I think/hope the majority of my neighborhood would not shop there. We will continue to use our neighborhood stores and mom and pops. This will cause that particular Walmart to become unprofitable and will therefore close down.
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    Living wage in DC is very high since it is thriving with all the Govn't employees living high on the hog.
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    We managed to survive before...

    Modern medicine
    SS
    Unions
    Welfare
    Democracy
    Big screen tvs
    Filtered water

    Your point is ridiculous. Yes, we were cave men once. And yes, we could survive as cave men. That doesn't mean we shouldn't strive to advance society.
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    My company sells products to Wal-Mart and to other companies as well. WM buys the same product from us that everyone else gets. Do they get a better price from us? In most cases yes.
    Here are the reasons:
    1. Volume----the quantity they buy per week is higher than anyone else. My truck drops more product per stop at WM DC's than any other retail customer we have.
    2. Pay---they pay me faster than any other customer I have. (10 days)
    3. Same price all year long----we don't get hit for promotions, ads, etc., that other retailers want.
    4. Information--we get more info from them than any body else would ever dream of providing. We can get sales by item by store by hour if we want to look at it that way.

    All of those things plus others are what allow WM to sell their products at a better price than most of their competition.
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    This is good to know. I'd also like to add that it's not just the bargain hunters that shop at Walmart. Some of the people that shop there are poor... living paycheck the paycheck... who can't afford "mom & pop store" prices. Why should the poor and the thrifty have to suffer?
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    Walmart's net earnings were $15.7B on revenues of $447B in 2012. ROE was 13.8%. Nothing extraordinary, or "outsized" (like oil companies in recent years). Generally, I don't like minimum wage laws because they constrict the free market mechanism. However, after allowing the free market to work it's magic, we need to come in behind that free market and bring those any of the low-hour wage earners that have children up (via supplements through tax dollars) to a level that they can survive on. Conservatives agree with me on everything except the last point. Why? Because most conservatives (not all) generally don't care what happens to other people, including children. A sad truth, but it's their mindset, their "worldview".

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