Very telling CUM quote today

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  1. gatorr4life
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    First year is almost always a scratch. Second year, he did very good. One game away from playing for the title. Hell, one fumble away, really. Third year was as snake bitten as it gets. No coach would do much better. (Georgie southern was un acceptable, I'll say that) This year, barring the same amount of injuries, there's no excuse that can be made. Year four will tell us everything we need to know, IMO. Yes, we're lacking offensive continuity, but Driskel is a third year qb. He should be taking huge strides by now. Plus, he has two future starting QBs nipping at his heels.

    As usual, I'm cautiously optimistic.

    At the very least, beat FSU and UGA and I'll be alright. (not really) LOL! :)
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    Let me just say that for over 40 years, my family has had very good conections in both Polk and Hillsborough County.
    But from what I heard in the following months after Urbs left... Nicho hit it on the head.


    When dealing with prima donnas coming out of high school...if one doesn't do things right walking in the front door... then one gets burned on the back porch.
    And that is all that I can say about the matter.


    Finally.... this is ONE of the reasons that we need to get on board with Coach Muschamp and give him that support that he deserves (at least one more year).
    Look at what the man has done this year in recruiting even after a totally embarasssing year.
    Number 6 in the nation.
    #6.
    Nuff said.


    There's our proof that the man is a recruiting maniac and he does it while covering all the correct bases.... first base...
    all the way to home base, if you get my drift.
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    I guess we'll find out this year seeing how this will basically be the first year with his players; hopefully healthy. Nevertheless, you keep finding every thread you can to knock the coach. You're a cool guy!
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    Mitch CUM-stein
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    THE LIAR.........SUCKS!!
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    Except he's not and won't be having his way with the top 150 in timbuktu. He doesn't have the HS's and the sunshine like he did at UF.
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    I agree. Let's make him recruiting coordinator and DC.
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    I wish WM shared UM's attitude of wanting to win the recruiting wars and being disappointed at not landing the No. 1 class. Another thing that separates the two.
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    Three times should be enough - is there an echo in here?

    What makes you think Muschamp and every other coach out there doesn't want to "win the recruiting wars"? It's an absurd statement on its face.

    But he wants to win them with the players he needs for his program. When we give out four year scholarships, that's especially critical. He has to get the right fit for our schemes as well as character. He doesn't have the luxury to have misses that just get "cut" like Saban and others do.

    What good does it do to win a mythical recruiting title with players that don't contribute? What good did 5* players like Chris Dunkley, Jonathon Dowling or Chris Martin ever do for this program? (and there are plenty of other examples) Meyer won a mythical recruiting title with those guys... so what?
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    Alabama has recruited 16 five-star players in the past four years, six of them in this class. That's how you position yourself to crush your rivals and win national titles. After all, that's the goal in CFB and the reason we're all here, right? UM found second place hateful. That's how he forged a team that smashed the SEC, went 5-1 against FSU and brought home 2 NCs in three years.
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    Remember Meyer falling asleep on a recruit's sofa?
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    Saban has his program rolling. He's doing an amazing job.

    But you're nuts with this 16 five stars stuff. He had five of them this year, and four total in the previous four years. Per ESPN.

    And how did Meyer's dumpster fire get started? And why did he run away and admit the program was broken?
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    And once again... how quickly we forget these two above questions.
    From which, the answers to both are so downright amazing.
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    Really? How about all the examples of 5 star guys that won us championships? They don't count? Coaches don't have crystals balls, some will pan out and some won't, but we both know the more 5 stars you sign the better your odds. Every single year the correlation between recruiting and winning is proven over and over again. So why ignore the facts to make you feel better?

    Urban Meyer's recruiting style WON BIG. It won bigger than any other time in our proud history. But somehow Muchamp is the better recruiter. Seriously?
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    Seeing we are talking about urban, here is a good read from a good OSU buddy of mine. TIFWIW
    **Days Of Our Buckeyes … We had been waiting until after signing day to tell you this story for two reasons: One, our source asked us to hold the information until the 2014 recruiting class was all signed up. And two, even if he didn’t make that request, we wouldn’t have wanted to rock the OSU recruiting boat so close to signing day.

    Well, leave it to a Bucknuts subscriber to spill the beans. Front Row message board member “tOSUHook” posted yesterday that there was a serious altercation between Mike Vrabel and Urban Meyer. Some fans questioned the validity of the post. You shouldn’t. It happened and we’re about to tell you all about it.

    The incident occurred in early December -- the week before the contest against Michigan State in the Big Ten Championship game. Ohio State had just given up 603 yards and 41 points to a porous Michigan offense and barely escaped with a one-point victory.

    Well, strength coach Mickey Marotti – who is absolutely Meyer’s right-hand man, was ribbing Luke Fickell about “not getting his guys juiced up enough” before games. No, he wasn’t making a Jose Canseco reference. Marotti was suggesting that Fickell didn’t get his guys fired up enough.

    Then Meyer walked in and joined in on the banter. And while we’re told Marotti’s criticism of Fickell was somewhat light-hearted, Meyer was a bit more serious. He told Fickell that he needs to do a better job of getting the defensive players emotionally ready to go before kickoff.

    Well, just then Mike Vrabel walks in and hears this conversation. According to an impeccable source, Vrabel went off. He felt that Marotti and Meyer were going after Fickell unfairly and Vrabel screamed at both of them. The shouting match escalated and it got to the point where Vrabel actually put his hands on Meyer. Didn’t punch him, but did put his hands on him. (We’ve heard varying stories from two different sources: One says Vrabel put his hand around Meyer’s neck and pinned him up against a wall; the other source says Vrabel grabbed the shirt collar and it wasn’t quite as violent as the other source is making it seem.)

    We’re told it didn’t happen right away since OSU was still undefeated at the time and very much in the national championship race, but eventually Vrabel was told he needed to find a new job. They decided they were going to try and keep everything in-house and make it look like an amicable split.

    One major difference in what we’ve been told by sources regarding the incident and the post from “tOSUHook” is that the altercation between Meyer and Vrabel did not happen just days before Vrabel left for the Houston Texans. In fact, it happened over a month before Vrabel joined Bill O’Brien’s staff. Like we said, the incident happened the week between the Michigan and Michigan State games. Vrabel didn’t leave for the Texans’ gig until Jan. 9.

    So, there you go. We would apologize to you for not telling you about this earlier, but we can’t burn sources. Especially really good ones. We were asked to hold the information until after signing day and that’s what we did.
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    That "cancerous attitude" gave us all the greatest era in UF history. I wish this attitude would spread through the current team.
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    Muschamp barely filled needs. We're desperate for five-star help along the OL and at the WR, TE and RB positions. We signed NONE. Instead we got FSU's table scraps.
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    Of course the stud 5* guys count. As do the worthless. Or the cancers, which are worse than worthless.

    And the point with Meyer is that he didn't manage the cancers. He let them fester and grow. Then he ran away when he realized he couldn't contain the cancer.

    So recruiting is much bigger than bringing in star rankings. You have to get athletes that fit your scheme, and have character and want to get better and earn their spot on the field. And when you make a mistake in judgment, which will happen, you manage it as soon as you know about it, and either get the guy turned around, or make it clear to him he's not gonna see the field.

    This is especially important in a program that makes a four year commitment to its players. We don't have the luxury of over signing.
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    You know how many five star athletes FSU signed? Per ESPN, so we keep everyone on a level playing field?

    None. Zippo. Nada.

    Their highest rated OL graded 83. Sharpe grades out at 88 - higher than any athlete in their class. Kelleher and Harkless are four stars. The rest of our OL class is the highest three star rating you can get (79).

    Everyone of our WRs were much more productive than Lane. Not even close.

    On video, I would give the edge to Cook over Powell, but Powell was more productive than Cook, and is without a doubt very elusive and explosive.

    And we got their best QB prospect, which was an absolute position of need for us - much more than RB or WR, because we signed an outstanding class last year at both positions.

    Other than all that, they actually did sign a higher rated TE than us. So you have that point in your favor.
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