USS Forrestal Sold For 1 cent

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    Yes this grand old lady once the pride of our carrier fleet has been sold for 1 cent to be scrapped. I was station in Athens Greece in 1957 in the USAF (gosh has it been than long ago) when this ship came into Piraeus the port of Athens. I remember well my wife and I going out to take a tour of it and how big it looked with the American Flag flapping in the wind. The Greeks stood on the bank and looked in awe of this might carrier. You would hope that a better ending would have happened for this Grand Old Lady. It was this ship that John McCain was sitting in the cockpit of his jet when an explosion tore thru the deck killing 134 men and injuring 300 more

    " Here’s a penny for your thoughts: One red cent could’ve landed you the Navy’s first supercarrier, the decommissioned Forrestal.

    The U.S. Navy sold the 1,067-foot behemoth to a Texas company, All Star Metals, to be dismantled, scrapped and recycled, Navy officials announced. It's an inauspicious fate for a ship with a colorful — and tragic — history. It's perhaps best known for a 1967 incident in which stray voltage triggered an accidental explosion that struck a plane on the flight deck whose cockpit was occupied by a young John McCain. A chain reaction of blasts and fires ultimately killed 134 men and injured more than 300.

    But its rich past and nearly four decades of service are not enough to spare it. The Navy tried to donate the historic ship for use as a memorial or a museum, but no “viable applications” were received.

    “It’s something that the Navy is caught between a rock and a hard place,” said Ken Killmeyer, historian for the USS Forrestal Association and a survivor of the 1967 incident. “They have to have these vessels no matter how big or small they are, and they use them as you would your car until they’re no longer financially viable. So, they decommission them.”


    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/10/23/forrestal-navy-first-supercarrier-sold-for-1-penny/
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    Its a shame no one could accomodate it as a museum, but it is sort of hard to find space to park an aircraft carrier.
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    ...not to mention the upkeep and maintenance.

    The ship has long since been paid off, but the government should still sell these things for a bit more money. The metal alone will bring the scrapyard thousands of dollars...we should get a bigger percentage of that.
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    Thousands? Probably more like Hundreds of Thousands....maybe millions

    Remember the scrap metal payoffs with the WTC?

    Corruption Rules!
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    The cost of manpower to scrap something that big has to be high. Probably needed to be sold cheap to get someone to take it. But a penny is quite low
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    I was thinking along the lines of 17 trillion.
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    Manpower, heavy equipment, environmental protection related costs, trucking, etc.

    I agree a single cent is too cheap though.

    I would have much preferred they created a man made reef out of it like they've done in other places along the gulf coast. Blow a few strategic holes in the hull and you have an instant attraction for sea life and divers.
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    USS Forest Fire. When I first was in boot camp, I remember watching a training film on the conflagration fire that was caused by the McCain accident. That was a huge fire and there were some lives lost fighting to put it out. I've been aboard her and was stationed on her sister ship, the USS Saratoga (CV-60) The Forestal was CV-59. I can't believe that the government couldn't get more for her.
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    This ship had a checked past so... Many Americans died on it's deck, so that's not really good.
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    When you consider the environmental costs of decommissioning, they are probably getting off cheap. They had to work on the Oriskane for years before she could be reefed.
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    Yep. I think we all had to watch that video. Remember it clear as day.

    Never served on a carrier (only spent four days on the Kennedy), but I did serve aboard the USS Belknap (CG-26) which was involved in a major collision with the Kennedy in 75 (12 years before my time) that melted the entire aluminum superstructure. She was then fixed up and fitted to become the 6th Fleet Flagship. USN subsequently decommed her in the mid 1990s and turned her into a reef somewhere off the coast of VA.

    Belknap after collision with the Kennedy

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    Forestall Fire video

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6NnfRT_OZA
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    Belknap, wasn't she the only one built in her class? I remember the Belknap, we use to do operatioms with her.
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    Well, well, well. Some newfound respect for the Chompmeister!

    Thank you for your service.
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    Going to go out on a short sturdy limb and surmise you weren't in military intelligence.:tongue:

    I kid. Sometimes I tickle myself.

    Carry on.
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    Great idea, but talk about pricey..

    Check out the cost, hoops, and red tape it took to get the Oriskany sunk.

    The Forestal was docked at Pensacola for a while after the Lady Lex left. Big ole ship.
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    I was on her from 88-90 in the med (home ported in Gaeta Italy).

    No, she was the first of her kind but not the only of her kind--though she was fitted for work as the flagship so in that way she was the "only" of her class. I think the USS Wainwright was one. USS Biddle too. Can't remember the others.
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    Yeah, that right. It's been a while.
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    I was on the Richmond K Turner (CG-20), so the USS Belknap (CG-26) is probably in the same class. I just remember the Belknap being special. I was also on the USS Standley (CG-32), but I don't think the Belknap was in that class. Yeah, the Belknap was a flagship and her bridge and superstructure looked a little different than the other ships in her class. I was an Operations Specialist while in the USN.
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