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Discussion in 'Swamp Gas' started by MyakkaGator, Feb 13, 2014.
Wasn't this posted in another thread? I know I read it on GC already. Not that it matters.
Ol' Urban got ample credit for his accomplishments while at UF, not to mention some healthy paychecks for doing his job.
But just like every other man on the planet, one isn't only judged by his successes and virtues, but also by his failures and shortcomings.
Urban certainly earned his pay while at UF, but keep in mind that wasn't his only compensation; UF and GatorNation aren't the only ones who got something from the relationship.
By coaching at UF, with a recruiting gold mine in his back yard, he became one of the few coaches in the country who can boast of a NC, and even more rare, 2 NC's; he became even more marketable than he already was... so much so, in fact, that tOSU didn't even blink over his health issues and went right after him.
But ultimately, since his departure, we've learned he didn't practice what he preached, and he's been less than honest on issues involving UF; former players have painted some rather unflattering pictures about the state of Meyer's UF program the last couple of years, and most of it has been confirmed by several media outlets.
So, while I appreciate what he gave the school as far as great seasons; he also left a trainwreck, contributed to some pretty substantial negative publicity and hits to the reputation of the school, and proved he wasn't who he made himself out to be.
The praise and the criticism are equally warranted, and neither cancels out the other, imho.
That's freakin beautiful.except the interest rate blast...I was expecting same as cash, but I digress.
This is a damn good post. Well said.
Michigan State 13-1 Close, competitive game
Clemson 11-2 Close, competitive game
Probably had more to do with them facing some good teams.
Can't be laughing too much, Urban is at another high-profile gig while he is still a WR coach at a lesser program.
Thing is, Urban Meyer was correct in the matter of holding his defensive coaches responsible for their poor performance on that side of the ball. Any signs of a good defense, and it would have been Ohio State vs. Florida State in Pasadena. The fact that you can't trust your defense puts a lot of pressure on the offense and special teams to perform at a high level.
Gonzales never got the chance he deserved. The train wreck that is addazio being urbs best friend saw to that. Friends do not equate to wins on the gridiron...see Jeff Bowden for a reference. Besides the fact that it was nepotism in its most quintessential form, he could not coach, but the senile one kept him around anyway.
I would think that the fact that Gonzales STILL hasn't even become a sole coordinator while Addazio has gone on to be a successful HEAD coach, lends some credence to the idea that Addazio was a better choice than Gonzo, and it had nothing to do with friendship.
Wow their fans are very fickle. (Pun intended)
I wonder if the internal stress was even greater than the external. I read an interview a few years ago where UM said once in Little League he struck out looking and his dad made him walk home. He also said when playing minor league baseball he called his dad and said maybe baseball wasn't for him. His dad told him if he quit don't bother coming home. But he better call his mother on Christmas. I cannot even comprehend growing up like that. I can see that kind of internal pressure to succeed tearing a person apart.
Don't tell them... they don't like "Fickle". Urb's is coming down to Earth now that the honeymoon is over. Let's see what he's made of now that he has some adversity on his staff to deal with.
he will never have adversity..he coaches in the big ten.
The writers at Bucknuts suck. "Ohio State had just given up 603 yards and 41 points to a porous Michigan offense and barely escaped with a one-point victory."
Exactly! Fantastic post.
Sure, we got two NC titles out of it... very rare and something to always be admired.
But, at what cost?
At least Tebow wasn't involved in an investigation regarding what Rapeous Winston took FSU through...
I will take our two titles over the Nolies' championship... ANY day!
What truly, truly amazes me to this very day... that if you talk to ANY FSU fan about their championship and how they feel about the Winston situation... they totally repond without any reservation.
There's no, "Well... yea... we loved the National Championship but we wish that things would have been different regaring Winston. Yea, it did not look real good over here in Leon County."
No... no of that.
What I hear is, "Yea.... we won it all. And regarding Winston... hey he wasn't charged with the crime... so what's the big deal?"
Typical FSU shrugging of the shoulders, "Uh....aw Shucks, no big deal... uh... that's the way that college football rolls."
It's like, they just don't care. They just don't care what kind of image that their school portrays...
Nope... winning trumps all!
For me, if Tebow... or Driskel... or Murphy... whatever... if any of our quarterbacks had been accused of such blantant crimes and then, to see the Alachua County Police, Gainesville Police or the UPD tried and cover all of that up...I would be emabarassed for my school and for it stands for.
Even if the above players were not charged... based upon all the evidence (DNA) that the Leon County Police Department found connecting Winston... I would be keeping my head low, my mouth shut... and not shrugging my shoulders like some FSU associates that I know..
Not exactly the point of the article but it did bother me; there is no such thing as a "porous offense".
Our guys would have been arrested for improperly disposing of a condom wrapper or something crazy by GPD before they could even commit a Winston crime.
Silly Bucknuts. Anemic offense would have been on point in that post.
Bothered me too. I think he meant to say "poor ass offense."