Urban Meyer again calls his 2008 Florida team 'the best team to ever play the game'

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    Don't know about that. Florida played two defenses that were as good as Florida's 2006 defense, and we gained 243 yards against Tennessee and 358 yards against Alabama. The 2006 Gators played two defenses better than the Gators' 2008 defense and gained 288 yards against LSU and 319 yards against Georgia.

    Tim Tebow had yet to have a come from behind win for the Gators until the Alabama game. Chris Leak had eight of them.

    The 2008 Gators beat Oklahoma by 10 points, scoring 24 points against a defense ranked 68th in the nation. The 2006 Gators scored 41 points against the 12th ranked defense in the nation.

    The 2006 Gators' only loss came to an 11-2 Auburn team at Jordan-Hare largely on a highly controversial fumble call. The 2008 Gators lost at home to a 9-4 Ole Miss team.

    Not going to say the 2006 Gators would roll over the 2008 team, but it would be a damned close game.
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    The 95 Huskers laid rubber on everyone they played that year.......scores in the 50s and 60's we're not uncommon. And they did it by running mostly option....Just made a mockery of the game of football.
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    I think the 87 Canes were the baddest ass group ever. Man they were good. Of course they were not really college students
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    It's hard to argue against the 95 Huskers. They scored 49 or more points SEVEN times. They broke 70 points twice and never scored less than 35.
    They beat four top ten teams; the average score of those games: 49-18.

    People think we played horrible against them but really, our 24 points was the 3rd most anyone scored against them all season (25 points KSU and 28 points ASU).

    It's hard to comprehend how good they were.
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    The other side of that stat is we went 13-1 in 2008 and 2009. It's kind of hard to have a bunch of have come back wins when you only lose 2 games in 2 seasons. That "number of comeback wins" stat was a way for fans to discredit Tebow's success at UF. "He was 35-6 as a starter, but he only had x number of comeback wins." See how dumb that sounds?

    Yes 2008 lost to Ole Miss, but they won all of their games pretty handily(prior to the SEC and BCS championship). 2006 had very close calls with South Carolina and Vanderbilt. Both were very good teams, I enjoyed watching and cheering on all of our teams, but I have to say that 2008 was the best I have seen at UF since I have been watching college football. ( I was too young for the Nebraska-Florida game) It comes down to preference, and I just loved the great offense and defense from 2008.
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    But they also only played 4 bowl teams. The '08 Gators played 9. They averaged 52 points per game, we averaged 46. They gave up 16 points a game, we gave up 12.
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    That's cool. I'm a 1980s Gator and loved seeing Florida win with great defense and an efficient, solid offense that just wouldn't lose, like our 1984 and 1985 teams. Like you, I rooted for them all.

    But don't discount the comeback win factor. It takes extraordinary poise to march downfield, methodically sticking to the game plan, when you are behind in the 4th quarter and the clock is ticking. Being that both defenses are superb, and both offenses gained a similar amount of yards against top defenses, I would feel better with Leak and his cold green eyes picking apart our secondary. Tim, for all his heart and soul, did not play particularly well when coming behind until the Alabama game. Why? Because he never needed to. When behind, he tended to be Tim Left, Tim Center, Tim right, look downfield for primary, oops, he's covered, better run. Siler and Everett would be all over that. Being that Percy was in his prime by the end of the 2006 season and all of 2008, that is basically a wash.

    It takes discipline and a cerebral approach to stay with your plan. Shane had it, Danny had it and Chris had it. Great players who played with their heart and balls, like Rex and Tim, could produce eye-popping performances or implode. Against our monster defense in 2006, not sure either would have overcome it.

    It's all speculation, however. We Gators have had the luxury of having many great teams:

    Year-------------AP final poll

    1983........................6th
    1984........................3d
    1985........................5th
    1991........................7th
    1993........................5th
    1994........................7th
    1995........................2d
    1996........................1st
    1997........................4th
    1998........................5th
    2001........................3d
    2006........................1st
    2008........................1st
    2009........................3d
    2012.........................9th

    A total of 15 single-digit rankings in 31 years! How many teams can say that?

    School--------------Single-digit Rankings since 1983

    Florida.......................15
    Florida State..............15
    Miami........................14
    Ohio State..................14
    Michigan...................13
    Oklahoma.................13
    Alabama....................12
    Nebraska...................12
    Auburn......................11
    USC...........................10
    Penn State...................9
    Tennessee....................9
    LSU.............................8
    Georgia.......................7
    Notre Dame...............7
    Texas..........................7
    Oregon.......................6
    Kansas State...............5
    Texas A&M.................5
    Virginia Tech..............5
    Wisconsin...................5
    Stanford......................4

    It's great to be a Florida Gator!
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    IDK Wormwood. You're definitely in a small minority picking 2006 over 2008.

    I think it is entirely possible the 2008 defense would shut out the 2006 Gator offense. Extraordinary plays by Percy would be the only shot 2006 would have at scoring. IMO. Match ups would be really tough on the 2006 Gator offense, and Black would be ball hawking in the secondary as he did against a much stronger Sooner pass game.

    No doubt the 2006 Gator defense would make it tough on the 2008 Gator offense, too, but there were just a lot more weapons on the 2008 team. I'd have to go with 2008.
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    No slight to Chris Leak, but in an Urban Meyer offense, I am taking Tebow 10 times out of 10. He just can't match what Tebow could do in that offense. That comeback win against Alabama was huge because he did it without Harvin. Even against Oklahoma, I feel that a 100% Harvin would have put us in position to blow Oklahoma out.
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    I don't disagree. I just think the game would be close. That said, the OU game was close, and their defense was ranked 68th, not 12th, as Ohio State's defense was. Harvin, even at less than 100%, had a monster game. But your point about Harvin is well taken.

    Also, almost forgot, Oklahoma played the game without THEIR Percy Harvin, Demarco Murray.
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    Meyer just being a self-serving douche as usual.....nothing new. He damn sure well knows he'll never sniff another crystal ball up at pOSU.
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    How many bowl games were there in '95 compared to '08? Doubtful a bunch of 6-5 teams in '95 were in bowl games compared to 6-6 teams in 2008.
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    Fair point, however they only played one team that went 6-5 and didn't go to a bowl. Not counting the game against the 1aa opponent, they played 3 teams that went 3-8 and another that went 4-8. Removing the FCS opponent, the only below .500 teams we played in '08 were Arkansas and Tennessee at 5-7.
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    That 2008 team was a machine though. I can't deny that...still don't know how they lost to Ole Miss that day.
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    And even now...nearly 20 years later, at age 39---Tommie Frazier is STILL running free down the sidelines. Whew...I thought that one play would never end.
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    Actually, he probably will win multiple MNCs up there.
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    When you cough the ball up twice inside your own 20 on consecutive possessions to start the second half that are turned into TD's by your opponent, that'll get you beat. We gave that game away.

    Reminds me of that '94 Auburn game when we turned the ball over 6 times for 13 points v.s. Terry Bowden and AU and ended up losing it. Argh, it's frustrating to watch sometimes.
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    They scored a FG and a TD off the turnovers, and we scored a TD off one of their turnovers. Florida had four punts and two turnovers on downs - the final one with Tebow being stuffed. the last four downs were incomplete pass, incomplete pass, 9-yard run by Brandon James, and no gain by Tim.

    They took it and beat us fair and square.
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    Yeah but how did they know Tebow was going to run?
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    You're kidding, right? Everyone at the Swamp and watching on TV knew who was going to carry that rock. You put Tim in that situation and he will choose to do it himself...
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