Union demands may close largest NJ newspaper

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  1. JerseyGator01

    JerseyGator01 Well-Known Member

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    In a state dominated by the wishes of unions for decades no thank to the whack job left media here, union demands may force the state's largest paper to close. Poetic justice IMO. BWAHAHAHAHA!

    http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/20...ions_as_union_officials_reject_ultimatum.html

    From the link:

    The Star-Ledger, which has won three Pulitzer Prizes and several national journalism awards, is New Jersey’s largest daily newspaper.

    Vezza said he remained hopeful an agreement would be reached, but set a deadline of Sept. 27 for the concessions or an agreement by the unions that clears the paper to outsource production to another company. Without either by then, he said The Star-Ledger will cease publication Dec. 31.

    Ed Shown, president of the Council of Star-Ledger Unions and GCC Local 8-N — the union that prints the newspaper — called the publisher’s threat “another sad and pathetic attempt to pound all of our union brothers and sisters into a state of submission.”

    He said The Star-Ledger has demanded 55 percent of their entire wage package.
    Shown said more than 300 people work as drivers, pressmen, warehouse and inventory employees at the paper, many New Jersey residents.
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  2. Row6

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    I think internet readers and advertisers are closing down the big papers.
  3. Minister_of_Information

    Minister_of_Information I'm your huckleberry Premium Member

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    There's always more money to be bled out of private enterprise. Don't believe the bankruptcy propaganda, they're just scuttling the company to find a fresh way to rob workers.
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  4. gatordowneast

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    Unions dig their heels in instead of collaborating to find a way to keep a business (that has changed dramatically) solvent. And so all their workers lose their jobs and the business goes deep 6. Now that is real leadership. The world changes constantly and so must businesses and unions. Does union leadership get that? I think not. They huff and puff and try to show their members how tough they are. While protecting their fat comp packages. And the Star Ledger goes the way of the Twinkie.
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  5. dadx4

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    So you are saying that even though the article CLEARLY states this is a union thing you are saying it's not? Interesting.
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  6. dadx4

    dadx4 Well-Known Member

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    I would go all "twinkie" on that union. Just shut it down. Then what are the union workers gonna do?
  7. fredsanford

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    This is job one of corporate America--reduce all workers to slave wages.
  8. gatordowneast

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    You likely have never run a business, made a payroll, pledged personal assets against loans, lost sleep because customers were slow paying you, loaned money to your business to make up for absent cash flow. Owner has to do everything to ensure the "continuity" of a business. If a business is not making money, it will go down and everyone suffers.
  9. fredsanford

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    It's easy to conflate the struggles of small businesses to big corporations. In reality, it's apples and oranges.
  10. gatordowneast

    gatordowneast Well-Known Member

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    Yep, when you work for a corporation in a managerial role, you are subject to dismissal at any moment. So the pressure to perform is different....I've done both. But the bottom line is the corporation or small business has to be profitable. Someone has invested their money. If the business fails, the money is gone and everyone is out of work.
  11. fredsanford

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    Big corporations are profitable. But they answer to Wall Street. Therefore, they must be MORE profitable each quarter. This leads to layoffs, outsourcing, etc., eventually.

    Unions and their living wages have to be destroyed in that process.
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    don't cross the unions in jersey--they run the state and will mess you up good if you don't give them what they want
  13. dadx4

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    :no:
  14. gatordowneast

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    Fred, not all corporations are profitable. if so, please explain all of the corporate bankruptcies in recent years. And pressure to make #s is higher with the lack of top line revenue growth. We have been on a treadmill at a slow walk for the past 5 years. Until Obama is out, I see no signs of risk taking or investment to grow by corps. Obamacare costs are hurting and the uncertainty is hurting more.
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    I agree. How could the union guys in my building live without the $60,000 tricked out F-250 4x4's they drive to work? I think what really keeps them sane after all the horrible treatment they get from their corporate overlords are the $30,000 ski boats they are pulling behind their trucks on Fridays.
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    I love it! The irony here is that I am sure that the newspaper was a big union supporter and now being taken down by the union.
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    Solid class warfare post.
  18. Gatoragman

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  19. malligator

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    You're the one that brought up "living wages" as if that's what unions are actually fighting for. They're fighting for as much money as they can get...just like the "greedy" corporations you hate so much.
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    Everybody wants as much money as they can get?

    Man, what has this world come to?

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